--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings
<no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings
> > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You're an idiot.
> > > > > > In that quote you quoted, Maharishi's comment only
referred
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > good karma that would come to your children when you are
> > > > liberated
> > > > > > and merge with the Cosmic. I tried to direct your mind
to
> > that
> > > > fact
> > > > > > in my last post , but intelligent posts are wasted on
your
> > > > scattered-
> > > > > > brain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OffWorld
> > > > >
> > > > > So now I'm twice the idiot!?! Oh well, who cares! BTW,
please
> > tell
> > > > me
> > > > > where you find it mentioned MMY only meant *good* karma?>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You quoted it yourself:
> > > >
> > > > "When a man is liberated and his individuality has merged
into
> > cosmic
> > > > existence, then the influence of his past karma will be
received
> > by
> > > > his son or grandson *or* by those who have blood affinity
with
> > > > him." -- MMY.
> > > >
> > > > Now, please explain to me the kind of BAD karma that a being
> > has ,
> > > > who has become "liberated and has merged into cosmic
existence"?
> > To
> > > > me this was obvious from the start, that such a being would
have
> > > > only good karma. To think otherwise is idiotic.
> > > >
> > > > OffWorld
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm... So you're saying that bad karma means you can't become
> > enlightened?>>
> >
> > Karma gets burned, en masse, in the purifying molten bliss of
pure
> > consciousness -- even the Gita says that. Getting enlightened is
> > easy by using the fire of pure consciousness to burn up all the
> > karma. That is Maharishi's whole point and whole movement is
based
> > on this idea.
>
> So if the karma is burned up, where is this good karma you're
talking about coming from?
Karma means Activity. There is always activity if a being is active.
But, "in the vicinity of Yog, negative tendancies are illiminated",
so an ascended being will only spread evolutionary influence when it
is active in the world. You can only call this good karma, good
influence.
>
> I think that what is burned up is the seed of karma in the nervous
system. The external karmic influences (did I really use that term
just now?) continue on indefinitely because
> they're part of the relative existence of the universe.>>
Only Leisha Vidya ("the remains of the yagya" -- after the burning
of the offerings) remains. Only enough of "ignorance" for there to
be activity, but it does not overwhelm the bliss or enlightenment,
nor the positive influence in the environment of an active ascended
being (which purifies its environment). The karma no longer has a
control (birth and rebirth) over the being, because the karma has
been burned up in the fire of 'knowledge', as the Gita states.
That is the theory Maharishi expounds, I am not saying I agree with
it or anything, just sounds fair enough to me. I don't agree or
disagree.
OffWorld