You discount scientific research on TM, yet you expect us to take seriously the 
opinions of your "two psychiatric friends," who hardly sound like unbiased 
observers!  I have been around TM people all my adult life, and your 
comments do not square either with what I have experienced for myself  
through the practice of TM or what I have observed in others. 

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've spoken in detail to two psychiatrist friends who state in no  
> uncertain terms that TM has a high incidence of side effects, which  
> includes psychosis, exacerbation of personality disorders,  
> dissociative disorders and a host of other issues. One is involved in  
> the Spiritual Emergence Network and TMers are very common rescuees.  
> TM literature ignores the problem which further exacerbates the  
> problem which should also give you an idea of who much we should  
> trust their "research". From a yogic perspective TMers tend to  
> "store" hot energy in the head, which is kinda like having your PC in  
> a 120 degree room, it causes all sorts of problems. Unfortunately the  
> TM org provides no alternative or cure for these problems other than  
> heir extremely overpriced Ayurvedic services, medicines and  
> treatments (which often will not work anyways on this specific issue).
> 
> It's been anecdotally reported here recently that a large number of  
> ex TM-teachers, living in Fairfield, have alcohol and/or other  
> substance abuse problems. In the absence of external verification of  
> their issues, many resort to self-medication through drugs or alcohol.
> 
> If you know someone with this type of problem, you can find resources  
> here:
> 
> http://www.internetguides.com/se/resources/senciis.html
> 
> On Jan 12, 2007, at 12:18 AM, suziezuzie wrote:
> 
> > When someone starts meditating, is the flatness (separation of Self
> > from sense perception) that they begin to feel is a prelude to Cosmic
> > Consciousness or the beginnings of personality pathology that has
> > nothing to do with enlightenment?
> >
> > A prelude to CC is the understanding given to us by the TM movement.
> > Personality disorder, depersonalization, etc., is the explanation  
> > given
> > by the TM critics. How do we verify which is true? The state of
> > flatness as a prelude to CC would be measured by increasing
> > stabilization of Self as defined by what CC is. Personality disorders
> > such as spaciness, depersonalization, etc., would be confirmed by
> > observations of pathology. So who should we believe, the TMO or the TM
> > Critics. Is this 'flatness of perception a pathology or a natural,
> > normal prelude to enlightenment defined as stabilized Self throughout
> > the three states of consciousness? Mark
>


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