--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Fester:
> 
> On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:38 AM, feste37 wrote:
> 
> > You discount scientific research on TM, yet you expect us to
> > take seriously the opinions of your "two psychiatric friends," 
> > who hardly sound like unbiased observers!
> 
> No, I did not ask you to do any such thing. If YOU know a  
> psychiatrist who has worked with TM people, ask him or her.

It shouldn't even need to be remarked that 
"psychiatrists who have worked with TM people"
have been exposed only, or primarily, to TM
people *with pathology* of some sort.  Unless
these psychiatrists are able to be heroically
objective, they're naturally going to associate
TM with pathology simply because those are the
TMers they see professionally.

Anecdotal reports of this kind are completely
useless for discerning any kind of correlation.

Then too, there is almost certainly a higher
percentage of people with underlying pathology
who start and continue TM than in the ordinary
population, so even a statistical study wouldn't
really tell you all that much about whether TM
practice *generates* pathology where it didn't
exist before.

> > I have been around TM people all my adult life, and your
> > comments do not square either with what I have experienced for
> > myself through the practice of TM or what I have observed in 
> > others.
> 
> Then I guess you must not have many friends.

Words fail me.  What a desperate response.

 I've seen everything  
> from scarring due to "physio-kundalini syndrome" to delusions of  
> grandeur to dissociative disorders to tourette's-like syndromes 
> (and other side effects).
> 
> Part of the TB mindset is a carefully crafted and deeply engrained  
> mechanism of denial.

And part of the anti-TM-TB mindset is a carefully
crafted and deeply ingrained mechanism to see only
the negative and be blind to the positive.  One
might even say pathologically so.


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