--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:35 PM, llundrub wrote: > > > They have no Buddhist samayas as these include not despairaging past > > masters. > > > Actually Buddha insisted no one accept anything at face value and to > question authority: esp. those claiming to be great gurus (I'm > doubting this would exclude todays McMasters and avatards). The Dalai > Lama has also explicitly stated that when things go wrong with a guru > (sexcapades, etc.) you need to let everyone know what went down, even > putting it in newspapers. Their samayas to their own consciences are > intact. > > And if the website is correct: they've helped thousands. That's a > good thing. And they were also the front troops of people really > standing up and questioning the authority of the TMO. And they took > the brunt of TB abuse along with the collective egregore of the rank- > and-file believers. It's always been extremely important for bleeding > heart TB's to spread misinformation on these first dissenters. > Hardline TMers hurl themselves on these people like they were > Palestinians with bombs strapped to their bodies.
You know, I was on alt.m.t throughout Knapp's tenure at Trancenet, and Joe Kellet's and Sudarsha's later campaigns against TM--not to mention Andrew Skolnick's-- and I don't recall anyone spreading misinformation "on" them. TMers--and not just "hardliners"--did, however, have to repeatedly correct the misinformation these people spread about TM.
