I forget if the youtube blasphemy challenge has been discussed.  If
this challenge has been discussed sorry, but it has spawned a lot of
responses by Christians.  This discussion reminded me of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7QVbJnSPQE


--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > I think we need to be realistic here. If we're talking about 
> a  
> > > > > legitimate master, it definitely would be harmful in terms 
> of  
> > > > > planetary evolution to disparage  such a master.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Faux-masters and avatards are a different thing altogether.
> > > > 
> > > > One wonders about the karma of those who pretend
> > > > to be able to tell the difference, and then, on the
> > > > basis of that faux expertise, proceed to bash a 
> > > > teacher and tell lies about him out of pure spite.
> > > 
> > > The only bad karma coming from disparaging a master is the 
> > > karma already evident from those doing this- that they have 
> > > no mechanism within their egoic dream to distiguish a true 
> > > master from a fraud. 
> > > 
> > > This joker Vaj is a prime example, puffed up like a peacock, 
> > > and spouting rubbish. No offense to the peacock...
> > 
> > The following was part of an email exchange 
> > that was forwarded here about a month ago by Rick. 
> > Neither the email, its excellent subject matter, 
> > or the following quote provoked a word of comment 
> > on FFL. One person asked which Dave the author of
> > the email was, but that was it. I "replay" the 
> > quote again, seeing if it gets more comment
> > when presented more in context:
> 
> Comment: One wonders whether Guru Dev would have
> made a distinction between sincere, well-meaning
> criticism and the kind of dishonest, vengeful
> bullshit Vaj and you post.
> 
> 
> 
> > "Correctly, correctly but the idea behind this is
> > that one shall not think badly of his master. But 
> > now I would suggest that you think about it for a 
> > moment, whether it is in principle harmful to be 
> > criticized or whether it can be even helpful?
> > 
> > The scriptures even say that criticism helps the 
> > earnest seeker and even the wise, to wash off their 
> > sins and that in reality criticism is a support for 
> > their spiritual development.
> > 
> > Many saints therefore put their loudest critics on 
> > the same level with their most devoted supporters.
> > 
> > The supporters serve the mahatmas and admire them
> > but they also take part in the wealth of their 
> > spiritual strengths; the critics however take nothing 
> > for themselves, they wash only the sins away.
> > 
> > We should be really very grateful for the agreeable 
> > service their criticism does and therefore should not 
> > try to suffocate it."
> > 
> > -- Guru Dev
> >
>


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