On Feb 2, 2007, at 2:02 PM, new.morning wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Feb 2, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Rick Archer wrote:


So let me throw the ball back in your court: was Mahesh's behavior
acceptable and normal?



If you're throwing it in my court, my simple answer is "no," no
more than it would be acceptable and normal for a shrink or M.D. to
seduce his patients. Many of the women were traumatized and
spiritually disillusioned by the experience, as were others, such
as his personal secretaries, who found out about it.
Yeah, that's my take as well.


There are three women "on record" sort of. Not really "many".
"L" saw it as a postive thing, or at least not traumatic, as I
understand. "J" had disillusioned times, adjustment time, and time of
longing to be back with him, as far as i understand. Not "tramatic",
or not substantlly more so than the the dynmaics of many seperations,
and ending of relationships.

Loosely said, many break-ups of relations are "tramautic". Does that
make relationshipd inherently bad?

No, of course not. It's the attachment that often makes it traumatic.


I am not defending MMY's sexual actions, but I am simply commenting on
the observation that I have not seen in posts today much criteria that
distinguishes his actions from a large number of relations: "not
normal or accepted", caused one or both partners trauma at the
breakup, etc.

Thinking about "accpeted" actions. Per various vedic and tantric lit,
it is my understanding that oldeer man and younger woman is a norm,
and quite accepted. Part of the dynamics apper to be a rejuvination --
a recharging of energies (of both).

Yes and there are younger women who are attracted to older men (and of course, vice versa).


I have to admit there appears to be something to that. Just being in
the company for an hour or so, non-sexually, just conversaton, with a
vivacious, funny 20ish year old girl transmits what I can would say is
"lots of shakti." Your mileage may vary.

In many Latin, Asian and European cultures older man and younger woman
is quite "normal" and cccepted. And if a vedic purist adheres to the
accepted and normal standards of his tradition, and is not concerned
with "new standards" of the "ignorant", how do you unravel and
deconstruct the ethnocentrism of the views that older man / younger
woman is abnormal, unaccpetable and perverted?

I think in the style of abuse we're talking about here, what distinguishes it as abnormal is a power disparity between the two parties and less the age disparity--although age to certain extent plays into it if you assume some naivete on the part of the younger "victim". In that sense power disparity (or even *perceived* power disparity) together with the naivete of youth could be potent factor for an old "lecher's" success.



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