--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 2, 2007, at 2:02 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Feb 2, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > >> > >>>> > >>> So let me throw the ball back in your court: was Mahesh's behavior > >>> acceptable and normal? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you're throwing it in my court, my simple answer is "no," no > >>> more than it would be acceptable and normal for a shrink or M.D. to > >>> seduce his patients. Many of the women were traumatized and > >>> spiritually disillusioned by the experience, as were others, such > >>> as his personal secretaries, who found out about it. > >> Yeah, that's my take as well. > >> > > > > There are three women "on record" sort of. Not really "many". > > "L" saw it as a postive thing, or at least not traumatic, as I > > understand. "J" had disillusioned times, adjustment time, and time of > > longing to be back with him, as far as i understand. Not "tramatic", > > or not substantlly more so than the the dynmaics of many seperations, > > and ending of relationships. > > > > Loosely said, many break-ups of relations are "tramautic". Does that > > make relationshipd inherently bad? > > No, of course not. It's the attachment that often makes it traumatic. > > > > > I am not defending MMY's sexual actions, but I am simply commenting on > > the observation that I have not seen in posts today much criteria that > > distinguishes his actions from a large number of relations: "not > > normal or accepted", caused one or both partners trauma at the > > breakup, etc. > > > > Thinking about "accpeted" actions. Per various vedic and tantric lit, > > it is my understanding that oldeer man and younger woman is a norm, > > and quite accepted. Part of the dynamics apper to be a rejuvination -- > > a recharging of energies (of both). > > Yes and there are younger women who are attracted to older men (and > of course, vice versa). > > > > > I have to admit there appears to be something to that. Just being in > > the company for an hour or so, non-sexually, just conversaton, with a > > vivacious, funny 20ish year old girl transmits what I can would say is > > "lots of shakti." Your mileage may vary. > > > > In many Latin, Asian and European cultures older man and younger woman > > is quite "normal" and cccepted. And if a vedic purist adheres to the > > accepted and normal standards of his tradition, and is not concerned > > with "new standards" of the "ignorant", how do you unravel and > > deconstruct the ethnocentrism of the views that older man / younger > > woman is abnormal, unaccpetable and perverted? > > I think in the style of abuse we're talking about here, what > distinguishes it as abnormal is a power disparity between the two > parties and less the age disparity--although age to certain extent > plays into it if you assume some naivete on the part of the younger > "victim". In that sense power disparity (or even *perceived* power > disparity) together with the naivete of youth could be potent factor > for an old "lecher's" success.
Sex is such a powerful, and personal thing... I'm not sure what it has to do with whether one is enlightened or not; Unless your with the Catholics or Buddhists, who really cares about other people's sex lives... Generally people who care about other people's issues, have the same issues themselves; which is why they are so upset about it. And sex, and Shakti energy, has always been surpressed, especially in Western culture; certain women at certain times, were customarily burned at the stake, for having 'too much Shakti, or other 'magical powers'... So, whatever... r.g. >
