--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" > > > > > > <willytex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > So, in the case of MMY's secretaries, you think they would > > > > > > > > talk to the guy who "procurred" them for him? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only secretary I've seen posting on the internet is Tom > > Anderson > > > > > > > on Usenet, and although Tom had lots to say about the > > > > > > > comings-and-goings of the Maharishi, including what appears > > on his > > > > > > > passport, Tom never said anything about any sexual > > encounters. After > > > > > > > dialoging with Tom for close to two years, he never even > > > > > > > attempted to suggest that. Tom should know - apparently he was > > > > in the > > > > > > > same room with the Maharishi for about a year in Spain TTC and > > > > > > > Switzerland TTC. And I'm sure that if Tom knew anything about > > > > this he > > > > > > > would have reported it, seeing as how he wasn't exactly a Mahesh > > > > > > admirer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to what I've read, the Maharishi wasn't even in Spain > > > > > > > for most of the Majorrca TTC and when he was there, he was in a > > > > > > > different hotel most of the time. Go figure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But there's nothing like the cross - and nobody posting here > > has had > > > > > > > the occasion to cross-examine the Maharishi to get his side > > of the > > > > > > > story, and that's a fact. Until someone does that, the issue is > > > > moot, > > > > > > > and therefore cannot be established. It's just gossip, pure and > > > > simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Cross-examine MMY to get his side of the story." That's just > > > > > > hilarious. I'll get right on that. "Hello Tony? It's Geez. > > Say, mind > > > > > > if I jet over and ask M a few questions about the chicks ne nailed > > > > > > back in the day?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ones he nailed back when he wsa 50ish? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ceibate for 40 years before and for 40 years after, as far as I can > > > > tell. > > > > > > > > > Good for you Sparaig. If you need to believe that to feel good then > > > > believe it. > > > > > > > > > > Well, OK. So you're saying that MMY was sexually active when? When > > he was a kid? When > > > he was in college? He forsook pre-marital sex so he could go stay in > > a monastary for 13 > > > years with Gurudev? During the 2-3 years after Gurudev died when he > > holed up in a hut in > > > Rishikesh? Perhaps he was hitting up young women during his stay at > > the Olsons > > > 59-61ish? > > > > > > And then, according to Chopra and others, MMY had a major physical > > breakdown about > > > 15-20 years ago, so are you saying that he was sexually active after > > that, after age 70? > > > > > > > > > Just what time-frame are we talking about? > > > > > We are talking about the 60's and the 70's...up to about 1975. I have > > no knoweldge of any sexual activity with women after that. There might > > have been but I certainly know nothing of it. > > > > And if he's capable of having sex now? Well more power to him! > > > > Welll... 50ish, meaning around 50, combined with 40 year celibacy before plus 40 after, > works out to 1957 to 1967. You want to say he was sexually active in the 60's and 70's, > 47 years ago, in his 40's and 50's so that means he was celibate for 40 something years > before and 30 something after.... > > yeah, how could I have been so careless in my guesstimation of the timeframe... > Beats the hell out of me. Was he celibate for 40 years before? I don't know that, do you? Whatever...the time frame where there is cross confirmation from people who were with MMY of sexual activity with female disciples is from about 1967 to 1975 or '76.
As Rick said, the need to cling to what you want to beleive is understandable. I did it myself for many years. It took a LOT of cross confirmation for me to come to the conclusions that I did. I'm going to go play golf now. Cheers.
