--- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "geezerfreak"
> <geezerfreak@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams"
> > > > > > > <willytex@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > sparaig wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > So, in the case of MMY's secretaries, you think they
> would 
> > > > > > > > > talk to the guy who "procurred" them for him?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The only secretary I've seen posting on the internet is Tom
> > > Anderson
> > > > > > > > on Usenet, and although Tom had lots to say about the
> > > > > > > > comings-and-goings of the Maharishi, including what appears
> > > on his
> > > > > > > > passport, Tom never said anything about any sexual
> > > encounters. After
> > > > > > > > dialoging with Tom for close to two years, he never even
> > > > > > > > attempted to suggest that. Tom should know - apparently
> he was
> > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > same room with the Maharishi for about a year in Spain
> TTC and
> > > > > > > > Switzerland TTC. And I'm sure that if Tom knew anything
> about
> > > > > this he
> > > > > > > > would have reported it, seeing as how he wasn't exactly
> a Mahesh
> > > > > > > admirer! 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > According to what I've read, the Maharishi wasn't even
> in Spain
> > > > > > > > for most of the Majorrca TTC and when he was there, he
> was in a
> > > > > > > > different hotel most of the time. Go figure. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > But there's nothing like the cross - and nobody posting here
> > > has had
> > > > > > > > the occasion to cross-examine the Maharishi to get his side
> > > of the
> > > > > > > > story, and that's a fact. Until someone does that, the
> issue is
> > > > > moot,
> > > > > > > > and therefore cannot be established. It's just gossip,
> pure and
> > > > > simple.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Cross-examine MMY to get his side of the story." That's just
> > > > > > > hilarious. I'll get right on that. "Hello Tony? It's Geez.
> > > Say, mind
> > > > > > > if I jet over and ask M a few questions about the chicks
> ne nailed
> > > > > > > back in the day?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The ones he nailed back when he wsa 50ish?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ceibate for 40 years before and for 40 years after, as far
> as I can
> > > > > tell.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Good for you Sparaig. If you need to believe that to feel good
> then
> > > > > believe it.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Well, OK. So you're saying that MMY was sexually active when? When
> > > he was a kid? When 
> > > > he was in college? He forsook pre-marital sex so he could go stay in
> > > a monastary for 13 
> > > > years with Gurudev? During the 2-3 years after Gurudev died when he
> > > holed up in a hut in 
> > > > Rishikesh? Perhaps he was hitting up young women during his stay at
> > > the Olsons 
> > > > 59-61ish? 
> > > > 
> > > > And then, according to Chopra and others, MMY had a major physical
> > > breakdown about 
> > > > 15-20 years ago, so are you saying that he was sexually active after
> > > that, after age 70?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Just what time-frame are we talking about?
> > > >
> > > We are talking about the 60's and the 70's...up to about 1975. I have
> > > no knoweldge of any sexual activity with women after that. There might
> > > have been but I certainly know nothing of it.
> > > 
> > > And if he's capable of having sex now? Well more power to him!
> > >
> > 
> > Welll... 50ish, meaning around 50, combined with 40 year celibacy
> before plus 40 after, 
> > works out to 1957 to 1967.  You want to say he was sexually active
> in the 60's and 70's, 
> > 47 years ago, in his 40's and 50's so that means he was celibate for
> 40 something years 
> > before and 30 something after....
> > 
> > yeah, how could I have been so careless in my guesstimation of the
> timeframe...
> >
> Beats the hell out of me. Was he celibate for 40 years before? I don't
> know that, do you? Whatever...the time frame where there is cross
> confirmation from people who were with MMY of sexual activity with
> female disciples is from about 1967 to 1975 or '76. 
> 
> As Rick said, the need to cling to what you want to beleive is
> understandable. I did it myself for many years. It took a LOT of cross
> confirmation for me to come to the conclusions that I did.
> 
> I'm going to go play golf now. Cheers.
>

So y ou had to work hard at believing what you do now...


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