I read someplace that the three fold path is the safest, 
most BALANCED way ~ karma~bhakti~jnana

Which I think is reflected in the traditional stories.
First, one starts with Selfless Service.
This develops Humility, begins to starve the ego, 
and Devotion starts to grow.
After some years( 12 ? ) if the disciple is ripe,
the Guru gives just a little knowledge 
~ too much knowledge would just begin 
to feed the ego all over again ~

just a little knowledge, perhaps, 
"you are not what you take yourself to be"
"not the body, not the mind"
"not any phenomena, not even the most beautiful"
and perhaps, a mantra.
And off you go to contemplate your inner nature;
hopefully, in a short time, 
surrendering the ego completely,
Awakening to Self.

Now, how hard can that be? 

A friend of mine told me that at the time
of Awakening, all knowledge is given up.

One doesn't necessarily need a Guru to do selfless service.
Without any guidance, after Peace Pilgrim devoted her life 
just to serve the needy, in only 15 years, 
she was God-Realized; her only knowledge was 
her inner guidance to really live non-violently.

hope this is useful.
i feel what America needs right now is a 1,000 Gandhis,
Peace Pilgrims and a US Department of Peace 
to turn things around for America;
perhaps, it's too late.

But, we can start to do what is right for us, 
right now, just follow your inner guidance.
Also, there are so many beautiful Awakened teachers;
if you want, find one without a personal agenda,
someone who wants nothing, expects nothing from you;
but is willing to give of himself freely. 

om santi,
anatol

--- In [email protected], "Mr. Magoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Duveyoung 
> > Thanks to anyone who's contributed to this thread. 
> snip>
> 
> Duv...in brief, I think the reason you don't see "pleasing
> personalities on their way to sainthood" is because MMY only teaches
> 1/8 of Maharishi Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga. Even though he
> acknowledges that all 8 must be practiced simultaneously, as stated in
> his Gita, he seldom emphasizes it.
> 
> Yama and Niyama are the foundations to a spiritual life. When MMY
> compromised and taught TM as a Science instead of a Religion (like it
> was originally) much of the quality was lost, albiet quantity
> increased, (hence you see a dope like me 38 years and still
> meditating) but now I practice ALL eight limbs of Maharishi
> Patanjali's Yoga, do you? And yes, I'm beginning to make progress,
> real progress!!!
> 
> snip>>
> > "Mr. Magoo" says, "Thanks...but, what's your alternative, now that
> > you've bailed on TM?"
> > 
> > I say, "Thanks for that word "bailed."  I had a very clear triggering
> snip>
>


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