--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Mar 2, 2007, at 8:02 PM, Vaj wrote:
> > 
> > > This is the same style of "effort" Patanjali talks of in Pada 
4 of  
> > > the yoga-sutra. Also the yogic idea of "virya", the inner hero 
or  
> > > spiritual warrior.
> > >
> > > Typical for any graduated path--and of course the Lam Rim 
(what you  
> > > posted on)--epitomizes such a path.
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing these quotes quant! I enjoy them. It 
reminds me,  
> > > I should renew my subscription to the Snow Lion newspaper 
which is  
> > > free. A great resource for those seeking higher initiation and 
of  
> > > course, good reads.
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > 
> > Here's a fuller response I gave when "quantumpacket" (and 
various  
> > other trigonometric "names") cross-posted the exact same FFL 
message  
> > to "TMTrue":
> > 
> > This is the same style of "effort" Patanjali talks of in Pada 4 
of
> > the yoga-sutra. Also the yogic idea of "virya", the inner hero or
> > spiritual warrior.
> > 
> > Typical for any graduated path--and of course the Lam Rim (what 
you
> > posted on)--epitomizes such a path.
> > 
> > Thanks for sharing these quotes quant! I enjoy them. It reminds 
me, I
> > should renew my subscription to the Snow Lion newspaper which is
> > free. A great resource for those seeking higher initiation and of
> > course, good reads.
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > BTW Quant, please feel free to contact me offlist if you have any
> > questions. The "effort" myth is probably one of the greatest
> > falsehoods perpetuated by TM adherents and marketeers. I say "TM
> > adherents" because Mahesh Varma, the Maharishi, corrected this
> > misperception long ago at a Teacher Training Course held at 
Estes Park.
> > Unfortunately the "purity of the tradition" has been compromised 
ever
> > since as younger zealots parrot these same falsehoods.
> > 
> > Interestingly to more recent yogis, this level of distinction is
> > absolutely transparent, as I've seen others directly question 
this
> > false belief as TMers tried to push this dogma on other, more
> > knowledgeable yogis. So do yourself and others a favor, and 
spread
> > the truth!
> > 
> > Peace,
> > 
> > Vaj
> >
> 
> BTW, Vaj (or is it ColdBlueIce), where is it documented that his 
name is Varma?
>
and where is it documented that *his* name is "Vaj"? LOL! Reminds of 
that character on Seinfeld who insists everyone call him "Maestro". 
What a hoot!

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