--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 7, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
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> > The pattern since getting involved with Waking Down is that I keep
> > revisiting the same stuff over and over again in cycles of pressure
> > and release. And, I feel into it a bit deeper in each pressure cycle.
> > Thing is, this stuff is all I've known for more than 30 years. I don't
> > even know what's innate and what's conditioned. And, I don't know how
> > to "work with it" other than just be with whatever is holding my
> > attention.
> 
> Sounds like you found one of the evolutionary reasons for  
> "witnessing" which is if you can witness, you can go into that state  
> and let the tape loops roll and let the unconscious pour its crapola  
> (without being involved in the mind-sewer). Then you're no longer  
> feeding the loops. If you're experiencing them as suffering, there  
> are probably still elements where you separate from them through  
> aversion ("pushing away").
> 
> You have a number of choices: witness and remain uninvolved or be so  
> spacious, it's all one and there is no separation.
> 
> One way I work with this type of pattern is to invoke them in  
> dreaming sleep and then freeze them. Believe me, if you use your  
> *utter annoyance* at the repetition of the tape loops to inspire your  
> focus, you can get the dream to stop. It's just a karmic VCR and  
> you're the only one with the remote. Then just hold the loop elements  
> in your awareness till they open, relax and go away. Then you might  
> go to another set of loops, but hopefully one that is either so long  
> you aren't annoyed by it's constant repetitions or it's content is  
> simply more livable without having to resort to witnessing. Or it may  
> completely open up. The best antitode IME is non-dual meditation,  
> eyes open, in a unified state and let the clouds come and go. If  
> there is no separation, there is no possible tension and so the loops  
> resolve, of themselves, by themselves, like a snake untying itself  
> from a knot.
>

But that's not TM witnessing.

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