If one of Curtis's street people were successful
in these respects, it would be awfully difficult
not to view them as "special."

(Or let's say "remarkable," since "special" has
acquired such negative baggage on this forum.)

I think we are missing each other on this point.  He was a fascinating
guy. I probably would connect with him on his love of nature.  I don't
see any evidence for him being more amazing then a lot of other
religious leaders upholding the status quo even if it includes the
cruelty of the caste system.  I think you are over focusing on my
bringing up the fact of his homelessness.  That doesn't make him less
interesting, it makes him more.  Especially when coupled with your
point about how he pulled of the Shankaracharya gig.

So I'll give him special and remarkable (although not necessarily for
the reasons he is revered in TMO), but he doesn't' get divine.  Is
that fair?  














--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "> Sure, Judy, and the fact that a number of people living
> > > > > on top of grates in DC say they like "their neighborhoods"
> > > > > must mean they're not homeless either, right?  You just
> > > > > can't give up on your fantasies."
> > > > 
> > > > I think the exemption only extends to guys who claim to have a
> > > > connection with God. Those homeless guys are the saints that we
> > > > should think of differently.  Here in DC that is about one out
> > > > of three guys on the street.  In fact I handed a George 
> > Washington 
> > > > to a guy the other day who was quoting the Bible so convincingly
> > > > I almost let him put his hand on my head to save me.  
> > >  
> > > Maybe you should have let him.
> > > 
> > > I'm just fascinated by the nearsightedness of this
> > > perspective and the extremely selective way you
> > > pick and choose the evidence for it.
> > > 
> > > How many of these homeless guys, if you plucked
> > > them off the street, dressed them up in robes,
> > > gave them a fancy house with lots of servants,
> > > and appointed them the leader of, say, a prominent
> > > Christian denomination, would actually end up
> > > fulfilling the expectations for a person in such a
> > > position?
> > >
> > To say nothing of coping with Guru Dev's well known rule for 
> > accepting *zero* donations or income from the outside. Nothing.
> 
> If one of Curtis's street people were successful
> in these respects, it would be awfully difficult
> not to view them as "special."
> 
> (Or let's say "remarkable," since "special" has
> acquired such negative baggage on this forum.)
>


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