--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> jim_flanegin wrote: 
> > I think some reasonable attention could be put on our social 
> > programs without having to resort to charges of socialism. 
> >
> According to what I've read, Jim, in order to balance the U.S. 
federal
> budget, the government would have to raise payroll taxes by 30% and
> cut all entitlements by 50%. Not for nothing do they cal it "Social
> Security". But, you're saying that the federal government should
> provide universal health care and raise payroll taxes?

So how did we have a surplus six years ago? Those numbers you quote 
only work if we keep giving the super-rich tax breaks. Just a scare 
tactic by the super-greedy. Don't buy into that rubbish.
 
> The best way to provide health care for individuals and families 
is by
> creating jobs for people so they can pay their own way. I'm in 
favor
> of universal employment - that's the solution to having no money. 
If
> everyone had a job they could afford their own healthcare plan. I'm
> not in favor of government free clinics - they suck.
> 
> > As a self-employed consultant... 
> >
> How do you like paying those double FICA taxes?
>
A real treat...

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