--- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6567329.stm > > guns, bombs = means of destruction > 32 killed in US - terrible - a mad guy perhaps > over 100 killed DAILY in Iraq - horrific - an insane situation for > sure > > Is there a parallel? Gun laws don't help; neither do endless Hollywod > movies and internet games "glorifying" violence; or the ways > prisoners are treated in US prisons or how suspects treated by police > (no wonder Iraqi prisoners get abused - almost "normal" treatment). > > Unfortunately UK having wave of gun and knife gang-led murders as > well. West Side Story rather prophetic.. > > Lack of guns kill people? well, knives can kill too...
Yeah, pretty much the point I was trying to get at. Also: 1) 150 million people died in holocausts in the 20th century. Many of those killed were people specifically targeted, prior to their murder, with gun REMOVAL, such as gun laws in Nazi Germany that prohibited Jews from having guns or peasants in communist countries from having guns. And when the State came for them, they were helpless to defend themselves. As the tagline for the movie "V for Vendetta" says: Governments should be afraid of their people; people shouldn't be afraid of their governments. 2) More people died in Oklahoma City than in VT. No guns were fired in Oklahoma City. If Cho didn't have a gun he would have, as Barry suggested, used something else. 3) Alot of research is coming up that suggests that in states that have concealed weapons laws that the crime rate goes down. > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > Discuss amongst yourselves. > > >
