--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> wrote: > > > > But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any > > justification for people holding on to arms. They > > would NOT stop an undemocratic "coup" or restore > > democracy through violence. Governments these days > > are just TOO powerful. > > Couldn't agree more.
I agree, too, but that's not the point. The point is that there are *already* almost three hundred million guns in America, owned by almost 80 million people. And that's just the *registered* guns. Forget the liberal claptrap like, "We should just get rid of the guns." That's bullshit. Tell us HOW you intend to "get rid of the guns." I'll wait. Every gun owner I know in the U.S. *already* has plans for how to hide their guns in the event of a "government recall" of them. They *already* have phony sales certificates "proving" that they sold the good guns at a legal private auction, and they have spare "guvmint guns" that aren't worth a damn that they could turn over to the cops without missing them. The real guns, the ones they intend to hold onto NO MATTER WHAT THEIR GUVMINT SAYS, will be safely stashed somewhere long before any- one comes to the door asking for them. And these are...gawd help me...decent, law-abiding citizens. We're talking doctors and lawyers and schoolteachers and musicians and computer scientists and divinity students and other such low-lives. Now think about all of the millions of *unregistered* guns in the hands of people who are *not* quite so decent and law-abiding. How're you going to even find those guns, much less get rid of them? So, next time anyone spouts a bunch of idiocy like, "What we need to do is get rid of the guns," you turn to the idiot and say, "HOW?" And then wait. They'll never get back to you with an answer, because THEY DON'T HAVE ONE. They're just talking through their hats. The American love affair with their guns is older and far more powerful than any of the half-witted liberal suggestions for how to end it. It's just not a solve- able problem ON THE LEVEL OF THE GUNS. The guns are here to stay. There is nothing the government of the United States could do TO "round them up." Can't ever happen. So any "solution" to the gun problem has to be on the level of dealing with the people who *use* these guns to kill other people. Me, I don't *know* what would work. The gun owners are frightened people, and they are much more afraid of the things they think they "need" their guns for than they are of the laws that might land them in jail for keeping them or carrying them. If someone passed a law that would put them in jail for 20 years for using a gun in self defense, they would keep their guns and carry them anyway. It's a HORRIBLE problem. And, like most horrible problems, it doesn't have any simple answer. Those who keep saying that there *are* simple answers are making themselves appear simple by saying it.
