Re: Curtis M.,
Yes, Peter, Curtis is wonderful. He has marvelous
talent and charm. His posts on FFL create spontaneous
outbursts of laughter.
On the other hand.... I would appreciate him more
were I not to get the sense that he traded one messianic
mission for another in 1989, and since then, and
including today, is recruiting for the new mission.
It seems that if one is embarrassed, one
would minimize attention to one's poor judgement, rather
than shout from the rooftop. The gamble Curtis takes
is that we will absolve him from personal responsibility for
his choices, and place all responsibility for his misspent
years at the feet of MMY and his movement. Sorry, I'm not buying.
Luv ya, still, Curtis.
--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey, you guys leave Curtis alone. We hungout together
> at MIU and he's quite "otay" in my book. If you
> personally knew Curtis there's no way in the world you
> guys would attack him or attempt to demean him. He's
> one of the good guys. He really is. I could give a
> rat's ass what the difference is between his take on
> the TMO/MMY, etc. and what my take is. Who cares. I
> could care less if he tried to deprogram me as I came
> out of the dome. What would it matter. We could talk
> about it over chapatis and tastey dahl, yum!
>
> --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I will address this to judyjim who seem to have
> > formed a symbiotic
> > entity of malice toward me personally.
> >
> > From the ages of 16 through 31 I explored the
> > teachings of MMY. I did
> > it with the enthusiasm and commitment that I needed
> > to experience the
> > states of mind his programs bring. At age 31 I
> > began a process of
> > re-evaluating my experiences from outside MMY's
> > system and found those
> > explanations to be more useful to me, and to my mind
> > more truthful.
> > In other words, I changed my mind due to new
> > information and
> > perspectives as I grew up. It was a long process
> > and came at a cost,
> > but it was worth it. As I have said many times, I do
> > not regret my
> > experiences with MMY's teachings. I gained all
> > sorts of value from
> > those years. But I also look at the movement and
> > its leader's
> > self-importance as ridiculous and a good subject for
> > humor.
> >
> > Judyjim have presented a criticism of my total
> > commitment and sincere
> > efforts when I was a part of organization a few
> > times here, as if
> > following MMY's strictest programs, sidhaland and
> > MIU was a personal
> > failure of mine. They also point to my willingness
> > to share my new
> > perspective with those who were interested as if
> > this too reveals a
> > defect in my character.
> >
> > The attempt to paint my life as "troubled" because I
> > was sincerely
> > focused on MMY's teachings for 15 years, and since
> > 1989 have
> > expressed another point of view on his teaching, is
> > lame. Rather then
> > discussing ideas, it is the last resort to attempt
> > to attack the
> > person rather than an argument. It is the lowest
> > form of discourse.
> > It takes neither imagination or intellectual
> > insight.
> >
> > To Judy: You have brought up the idea that when I
> > fight back when
> > personally attacked here, it is a flaw in my "nice
> > guy image". This
> > is a contrivance of your own invention. I am not a
> > nice guy to people
> > who attack me. I fight back when I feel it is
> > appropriate. I am nice
> > to people who treat me with respect and have the
> > ability to discuss
> > ideas without making it a personal attack. I will
> > always point out
> > when a person is being rude to me or attacking me
> > personally. Your
> > continued hostility towards me personally speaks for
> > itself about your
> > personal values. I do not share them.
> >
> > To Jim: If you can search on my name you can search
> > what ad hominem
> > attacks are. Your use of them undermines any hope
> > you may have as
> > coming across as a thoughtful advocate of your point
> > of view.
> >
> > My point of view is based on my perspective that MMY
> > is incorrect in
> > his understanding of human consciousness. My POV is
> > a positive step
> > for me in understanding my life and my experiences
> > in the movement.
> > For the people here who are able to discuss our
> > various perspectives,
> > where we differ, and where we agree, I am extremely
> > grateful. Posting
> > here has been a valuable asset to the evolution of
> > my perspective and
> > thoughts concerning MMY among other parts of life.
> > Some of you have
> > shared my intense interest in MMY's teachings to the
> > point of pursuing
> > it fulltime. You are the people I relate to best
> > here. If MMY was
> > correct in his understanding of human consciousness,
> > this total
> > commitment to achieving his goals is the most
> > rational thing for a
> > person to do. Likewise, if we have decided that it
> > no longer suited
> > our needs, it is also rational to express our
> > growing understanding
> > assisted by other teachers, and our own personal
> > thinking. There are
> > many on this group who discuss ideas in this
> > mutually respectful way.
> > It is a fantastic intellectual resource. That is
> > why I post here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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