--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At least for any length of time, my guess is that after many years of > this unnatural behavior many of these Siddhas will actually have > damaged their knees. It's not that I don't believe that Yogic flying > is possible, only that in the past (in yogis and saints) it probably > occurred spontaneously and not after years and years of 'unnatural' > hopping. > > In the other documented cases where levitation was established my > impression was that the individuals were highly developed spiritually; > I don't get that impression from your average siddha. > > And to suggest that a little bubbling bliss is the equavalent of > operating from the level of all the laws of nature to me is totally > nuts but is another discussion. > > It would be interesting to see if any siddhas have already damaged > parts of their body.....
Yes mucho have hurt their knees and spines. I've been told it's especially hard on western bodies. I agree hopping is not something that's supposed to be practiced over years in the hopes of it finally working, and the 30 yr evidence is that sidhas don't get better at it over time. I'm surprised sidhas haven't gotten more curious about what's really going on in the subtle body and consciousness during hopping. There are all sorts of ways to get the pranas moving in the body and some may feel real flashy, but they don't necessarily have anything to do with spiritual transformation. Imagine someone who doesn't know anything about sex and is taught how to do it and told that the bubbling bliss and mental/emotional euphoria it creates is the fastest way to get enlightened and the extra energy that comes from doing it in a group creates world peace - they'd probably believe it, but doing it 2x a day may do nothing for their real spiritual progress.
