--Thanks, Vaj, as usual!.  Your analysis, though astute, is typically 
Vajian erudite and consistent with history; but I'm into the NOW 
reality of which M-Fields are predominant.  Origins make no 
difference.  By analogy, Toyota is surpassing the other auto makers 
in sales.  This is significant!.  ...but I don't care about the 
origins of Toyota.
  If we look at the major influences NOW, we can categorize them as a 
simple list:  for example.... a. the TM "Movement" on its last legs...
(too bad), b. SSRS, c. Ammachi; d. Tibetan Buddhism as a whole e. Neo-
Advaita; etc.
  These types of Movements are what I'm interested in, not an 
academic analysis of their origins in relationship to the original 
founders. Make sense?.
  Thanks again! PS. You could, perhaps, enjoy a lively exchange of 
ideas with Buddhist scholar Robert Thurman.
.


- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's only because the three are related in terms of emergence. 
Non- 
> dual Shaivite Hinduism is likely derived from Zhang Zhung rishi's 
pre- 
> Buddhist Mantrayana and Mahasandhi. Advaita Vedanta is a Hindu  
> reaction to Nagarjuna's Madhyamaka .
> 
> One should not confuse advaita with advaya.
> 
> On May 8, 2007, at 6:20 PM, matrixmonitor wrote:
> 
> > --Precisely!. Among the impersonalist viewpoints, one can merge 3
> > circles into an overlapping area: 1. Saivite Hinduism (TM fits in
> > here), 2. Buddhism, and 3. Neo-Advaita.
> > Then refer to the standard Advaita-Vedanta texts, such as that 
Yoga
> > Vasistha, Patanjali, Shankara, Ramana Maharshi recorded messages, 
and
> > countless Buddhist texts.
> > Conjectures regarding the nature of the highest, or most powerful
> > relative entities, such as Brahma, Vishnu, Krishna, Yahweh, etc; 
are
> > speculative. IMO, the bottom line is what is the connection to 
such
> > entities and PHYSICAL reality? If there's no connection, then
> > discussions regarding such Personalities are academic. That is,
> > unless individuals have a real, personal connection to Them on an
> > inner plane level.
> > But basically, unless Krishna can give me a good stock market
> > prediction, I'm not interested in relating to Him.
>


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