--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > >> Yes, I see there being two phases to the process, the TB process > > where one follows the guru and tunes one's mind and heart to Him > > perfectly, so that when it is time to learn to fly, one's faith in > > the guru and the guru-mind that one now carries will allow each of > > us to ascend at that time to our own unbounded freedom, no longer > > tethered to the guru, but set limitlessly free. > > > > The second phase could be called TBE, True Believer in Everything, > > because one is now at the point where every moment, every > > singularity is offered up on the throne of the Divine, as an > > instantaneous opportunity to turn Infinity as one desires, the much > > vaunted "Field of All Possibilities" in action. > > > > When I remarked that your expression of the word "sweet" was real, > > it was not meant as a criticism of the cherished True Believer > > devotion, but rather a recognition that you are a knower of > Reality; > > dynamic, instantaneopus Infinity, more TBE than TB. That's all. > > Sweet! :-) > > Yes, although in one sense spacetime and growth is a big joke, on the > other hand I think M. Scott Peck put it really well when he outlined > four stages of growth: 1) Chaos, 2) Fundamentalism, 3) Eclecticism, > 4) Love. He points out that a being identifying with any given stage > cannot see above or beyond where it is, but can only interpret others > as being in its own stage ("one of us") or in any stages already > recognized and "below" it, which (generally) it is reacting against > as "evil". Thus a fundamentalist (2), only familiar with (1) chaos > and (2) fundamentalism, would interpret an eclectic (3) as being a > non-fundamentalist, hence as chaotic, or "evil" (1). Similarly, an > eclectic (3) can only interpret Love (4) as being non-eclectic, or > somehow fundamentalist/chaotic, now synonymous with "evil" (2). > > I remember exactly when I first recognized unconditional Love as an > actual presence or state, irrespective of person, and while I was > instantly attracted to it, knew I had to Be it, it also scared the > bejeezus out of me, as I realized that its very presence destroyed > all my carefully-built-up scholarship and discrimination and mastery > of eclecticism, everything I had identified with, revealing its core- > nature of semi-conscious competition, power, etc. (this was in > Harvard Divinity School). Not surprisingly, this glimpse also > triggered the onset of a two-year Dark Night of the Soul :-) > > > *L*L*L* > Yes, spacetime and growth *are* a big joke, and while we are laughing at them, they are laughing right back at us, watching our every move, evaluating, seeing if we are slave or master, with neck, hand and leg-irons at the ready! Ha-Ha! You are bringing out the mirth and giggles in me again...could we call the Peck stages, 1- sleepwalking, 2-awakened point value, 3-awakened multi-point value, 4-awakened infinite point value, which then transcends its point value altogether?
A beautiful model. It certainly explains the dynamics here on FFL sometimes where the eclectics (you know who you are! hehe) will mistake a state of unconditional love for that of fundamentalism and/or chaos. And I can totally relate to that moment of recognition when unconditional Love was recognized clearly and unmistakably by me as the goal and being simultaneously completely terrified! HA-HA! Seems gently silly now, but at the time and whenever I would think of it afterwards, I'd have a visceral reaction like I knew I could no longer hide in my skin. Unnerving to say the least. Like the joke about the General watching the opposing army advance on him, and he turns to his aide, and barks, "Bring me my brown pants!". In any case, yes, all that is left after that is the steady and exciting journey towards death and dissolution (!), all resistance is futile. Once bitten by the Supreme Love Bug we all succumb eventually. :-)
