--Right!  Vaj's Guru, Norbu Rinpoche is not a great teaching Guru.  
He only has a few hundred disciples and his best technique is 
the "Dance of the Vajra" a type of dance done on top of a mandala to 
the accompanyment of various Tibetan instruments.
 Basically, Vaj reminds me of those Christian Fundies who go around 
saying "you're going to Hell".  The people who say that are already 
in Hell, but they don't know it!. 

- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> 
> > One thing to keep in mind, particularly in a technique 
administered  
> > to thousands or millions of people without personalized 
> instruction:  
> 
> Let's just say that what you are saying is true. What is your 
> alternative? You have been at this same message for years, and yet 
> never propose a workable alternative. Maharishi's goal has always 
been 
> to create world peace by quickly raising the world consciousness. 
How 
> else can this be done except to provide an easy to practice 
technique, 
> en masse? Are you suggesting the the millions who practice TM and 
TMSP 
> instead go through what you did? That would not scale. So in the 
> meantime I will be waiting for your alternative. Otherwise I assume 
> you are like the guy in the meeting that shoots everything down, 
> without coming up with a responsible suggestion of his own.
> 
> Here is my theory on spiritual practice: Because we do it by 
> ourselves, like many other actions, like sleeping, waking, 
breathing, 
> etc. it should be as simple and easy to learn and do as possible. 
In 
> my experience and reflection, that is how our world is designed. 
Just 
> as there are those who make a big show out of the commonplace in 
life, 
> there are those like you who get so caught up in the esoterica of 
> spiritual practice that they can no longer see the forest for the 
> trees. They lose sight of the goal by being seduced by their own 
path. 
> That is the exception, not the rule as you express. Most of us just 
> want something like TM and TMSP to rapidly achieve the goal and get 
on 
> with our lives, not getting stuck in an endless masturbatory loop 
> of "this technique does this which I believe is this and that...". 
> 
> I can appreciate you have spent a lot of time and effort learning 
all 
> this esoteric knowledge, but outside a very small group of 
hobbyists, 
> does anyone else in the world even care? The answer is no. So 
provide 
> an alternate means to quickly spear the darkness of the world with 
> light as Maharishi has done, or please keep your itty bitty 
knowledge 
> to yourself-- it is all but worthless to the rest of us.:-)
>


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