Hello group, Since being in touch with Rick lately, I followed 2 threads- is that what you call them? I read all the comments about Guru Dev's deathbed instructions, and also comments about Maharishi's latest comments about being caged in when not being in a proper vastu.
I am not claiming to be up on all current events for what takes place in the movement, and therefore my assessment can be off, but there was very little inquiry about Maharishsi saying he was caged in. When I read this, I thought what I think almost everyone would think- we know from Tm and otherwise that with this state of enlightenment, nothing cages in that consciousness- and actually, then enlightened tell you that this is what they are, consciousness, and caution the disciples - do not think of the Guru as persona. There was at least one comment here in the group, and the question was posed- what sort of fragile state of enlightenment is this that is dependent on a house for illumination? My angle I am coming at it with is that I am with another Guru, the advancement in consciousness that came about was very quick, then I knew this new existence was always possible, and it is directly related to methodologies used and grace of Guru. And then general comments from my Guru is a Guru can only take you as far as they are. So, in the angle I am coming from, it is not just this comment from Maharishi, it is the overall situation of what unfolded- it is like an added piece to the puzzle when I read these comments. Regarding the deathbed instructions from Guru Dev, firstly all that has been said by my Guru has been straight truth, not sugar coated. Confusion is simply not there because the Guru is right there to clear the air. My findings is that all has been truthful, therefore what is said is reliable and honest, no reason not to believe it. In the case of this situation with Maharishi, and the deathbed instructions, I am simply no longer used to speculating about what happened because in my camp here, I pick up the phone, or send an email and the reliable answer is there in 5 minutes. Maharishi is in form at present- this question seemingly cant even be asked and even if it were, it doesn't seem the air would be all cleared up anyway. So, I can join right in with the speculators and guess that Dr. Varma's comments were not accurate. I heard the same story that many did from Maharishi which puts it at Maharishi being a self appointed Guru, I guess similar as Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Coming from my Guru, it was said there is a tradition where a Guru was appointed Guru by their Guru. Furthermore, Maharishi did not take full Sanyas vows, or full vows within the tradition of GuruDev. Maybe he was a secretary? It is not normal for a Guru to entrust the innermost knowledge to a secretary. My Guru said that in her case, there is one being groomed now for this position, but this is one that has taken sanyas and it simply is a flow that this person is selected. My Gurus general comments are this is how a Guru is appointed, not by wanting to be Guru or declaring ones self to be one. My Guru started a TM yahoo discussion group, there are already some posts up about this subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TM_Discussion/?yguid=228252276 My Guru is from the same tradition as TM's Guru Dev. Ron
