> 
> So...you were dependent on Maharishi for answers for awhile, and now 
> you are dependent on someone else for answers? 

ANSWER IN CAPS SO YOU FIND MY TEXT, I AM NOT SHOUTING

FIRST PART OF THIS LINE- WHAT WAS- I DONT HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION TO GIVE YOU 
ABOUT ME BEING DEPENDANT ON MAHARIHSI FOR ANSWERS- NOT THINKING AT THE 
MOMENT- I DID TM, HAD GOOD EXPERIENCES- PROBABLY THE WAY I GOT MY ANSWERS 
WHILE IN TM IS SIMILAR TO HOW THE REST GET THEIR ANSWERS, NO NEED TO DESCRIBE 
THAT, YOU ALREADY KNOW IT

2CD PART OF YOUR LINE- I WOULD RATHER JUST DEFINE MY WAY WHAT IS TAKING PLACE, 
THEN IF THAT FITS IN WITH YOUR DEFINITION, THEN OK

IN ORDER TO DO THIS, FIRSTLY I WILL DEFINE WHAT A GURU IS ACORDING TO MY GURU- 
A 
GURU IS WHAT YOU ARE WITHOUT THE COVERINGS, AND A GURU IS THERE TO GUIDE ONE 
TO REMOVE THESE COVERINGS BUT NOT TO LIVE YOUR LIFE, EACH ONE MAKES THEIR OWN 
CHOICES AND LIVES WITH THESE CHOICES

SO, IN ENTERING THE PATH I AM ON NOW, IT MEANS I HAVE WALKED AWAY FROM MY 
PREVIOUS PATH. IT COULD BE THAT SOME HAVE ONLY ONE GURU, SOME MAY HAVE MANY 
IN THEIR JOURNEY- MY GURU HAD 4.

IN ENTERING MY PATH, WHAT MY GURU SAID IS THAT SHE WILL NOT WORK WITH OTHERS 
WHO HAVE A GURU BECAUSE THIS IS IMMORAL, SO, EITHER THEY HAVE TO HAVE 
PERMISSION TO HAVE 2 GURUS OR THEY ARE GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM WHERE THEY 
ARE. THIS WAY, MY GURU DOESNT HAVE TO PUT IN THIS ENERGY THAT COMES ABOUT AS 
A RESULT OF THE CONFUSION. 

SO, THE PATHS ARE DIFFERENT.  I DID NOT HAVE A ONE TO ONE RELATIONSHIP WITH 
MAHARISHI, MAYBE SOME DO. WHERE I AM NOW, I DO HAVE A ONE TO ONE RELATIONSHIP. 
THERE IS A FAITH REALLY- ACORDING TO MY GURU- WHEN ONE IS ON THE PATH. 
MAHARISHI STEERED AWAY FROM THAT WORD I BELIEVE BECAUSE AS A BROAD APPEAL, 
SWEET TRUTH, AS MAHARISHI WOULD REFER TO IT, IS USED.

I WOULD SAY THE DISTANCE BETWEEN WHAT ONE IS DIRECTLY EXPERIENCEING AND WHAT 
ONE IS TOLD IS THE END RESLUT- THAT IS WHERE THE FAITH COMES IN. AS SUCH, 
PRACTICES ARE GIVEN, ETC- THEN IT IS SURRENDER FOR ME IN THIS PATH, DOING WHAT 
IS 
GIVEN AS GIVEN- CLASSIFYING THIS AS GUIDENCE ALOING THE WAY SO THE END RESULT 
IS 
REACHED.

THE END RESULT IS ALL FALLING AWAY, ATTACHEMENT TO EGO, MIND, BODY- I AM TOLD 
THE END RESULT IS THAT WE WILL KNOW 100% THAT WE ARE NOT THE BODY, NOT THE 
MIND OR CONDITIONINGS- THOSE THINGS WHICH WILL FALL AWAY - MY GURU WOULD 
DEFINE AS EGO

Devotion is a 
> beautiful experience, however at some point it merges with the 
> ability to be completely independent also. Jai Guru Dev. :-)


ONE OF THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS IN WHICH MY GURU IS SPEAKING IS TITLED IS THERE A 
NEED 
FOR CONFIRMATION FROM THE GURU, ALSO OTHER VIDEOS ARE - IT THERE A NEED FOR A 
GURU.

I AM TOLD THAT ULTIMATELY THERE IS NO OUTTER GURU, NO OUTTER ANYTHING FOR 
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OUTTER AND INNER FOR THERE IS ONLY ONE. I 
WOULD BE LIEING IF I SAID I FULLY KNOW THIS FROM DIRECT EXPERIENCE, THERE ARE 
GLIMPSES, AND THEN THE COMMENT FROM MY GURU THAT WHILE GLIMPSES ARE GOOD 
ALONG THE WAY, AS IT IS AN INSPIRATION FOR ONE TO CONTINUE, IT DOESNT HOLD 
WATER COMPARED TO BEING ESTABLISHED IN REALIZATION.

SO, YOUR COMMENT THAT AT SOME POINT, THERE IS ONLY ONE, NO TWO, ALL IS 
MERGED- YES, I HAVE HEARD IT AND SOME GLIMPSES ARE THERE, BUT THIS IS NOT MY 
REALITY NOW. AS SUCH, THERE IS A HEIRARCHY IN PLACE IN THE PATH. THIS MEANS THE 
GURU IS NOT MY BUDDY TO PAL AROUND WITH, AND SPEAK ON THE SAME LEVEL, AND 
THE TRUTH SPOKEN BY THE GURU IS NOT THE EQUALL TRUTH SPOKEN BY THE DISCIPLE.

THESE POINTS WERE MADE BY MY GURU, I AM PASSING IT ALONG AS BEST I CAN. PEOPLE 
LOVE TO HEAR YOU DONT NEED A GURU FOR ALL IS ONE, THERE IS ONLY THE INNER GURU 
ANYWAY. MY GURU SAID MUCH OF THIS WAS BORN OUT OF RAMANA MAHARIHSI BECAUSE 
HE WAS SELF REALIZED BUT EVEN HE SAYS 100% THAT ONE NEEDS A GURU IN ORDER FOR 
ENLIGHTENMENT TO UNFOLD.

IT IS HARD FOR ME TO EXPLAIN BUT I JUST CANT THINK NOW TO BOX UP A DEFINITION 
FOR HOW IT WAS WITH TM AND HOW IT IS NOW. IT DOES NOT RESONATE WITH ME THAT I 
WAS DEPENDANT FOR ANSWERS IN TM, AND ALSO THAT I AM DEPENDANT FOR ANSWERS 
HERE ON MY PATH NOW.

WHEN I FIRST ENTERED MY PATH HERE, I HAD SO MANY QUESTIONS, THEY ARE ALL IN THE 
ARCHIVES IN THE YAHOO GROUPS, AS MY GURU HAS YAHOO GROUPS. NOW, THERE ARE 
NOT MANY QUESTIONS- THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMMENT FROM MY GURU- THE QUESTIONS 
FALL AWAY AS ONE PROGRESSES ALONG THE WAY.

I GUESS I GAVE A LONG REPLY HERE BUT TOO LATE NOW. MAYBE YOU ARE CRITICAL OF MY 
CHOICES OR WHAT I DID OR AM DOING. NO ONE WILL APPEAL TO EVERYONE, SO MAY 
SOME ENJOY WHAT I JUST WROTE



RON



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