> > Bhairitu wrote:
> > > There are plenty of yogis who can teach people 
> > > how to teach "yogic meditation" some of which 
> > > may work a lot better or safer.  
> > 
> > So, how many yogis can teach a person how to transcend?
> > From my experience, and I've studied with several, not
> > a single one had any idea of how to effortlessly go
> > beyond the thinkng process, by transcending, like we
> > regularly do using the TM technique.
> > 
> > Here's a partial list:
> > 
> > Suzuki Roshi
> > Chogyam Trungpa
> > Tarthang Tulku
> > Swami Rama
> > Swami Prakashanand Saraswati
> > Yogi Bhajan
> > Jose Silva
> >
TurquoiseB wrote:
> A valid point.
>
So, you can't name a single teacher that has taught you
or any of his students how to effortlessly transcend, 
not even Freddy the Zen Master.
 
> However, it's a fairly safe bet that none of the
> students of the teachers mentioned above -- even 
> though they might not have your vast experience with
> transcending -- are known far and wide as Internet
> Trolls who live in Pisspot, Texas and get their
> jollies by making shit up and posting it, all 
> because they're lonely and crave attention. 
>
Non sequitur. 

> Perhaps if the other students of these teachers had 
> transcended more, they would have achieved your 
> status in life.
>
Maybe so, but only one teacher was able to explain to 
me the mechanics of conciousness and to show me how 
to transcend - Marshy. All the others didn't seem to
have a clue about how to reach transcendence using a
technique - it was all just talk. So, unlike you, I'd
give Marshy credit for that, the most important thing,
and cut him a lot of slack for all the other things he
did or did not do, including letting himself get 
seduced by Linda and failing to tell us about it.

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