--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 2, 2007, at 12:32 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > 
> > > > Unless of course he was talking of fences as symbols....
> > >
> > > Exactly. As symbols for separating oneself from
> > > the outside world.
> > 
> > I thought so. That was my instinctive take on it.
> > 
> > It's interesting to me that someone who rails on others for  
> > dishonesty of all sorts is actually the one who is consistently  
> > dishonest!
> > 
> > There's a principle in Islam where one is allowed to lie if it 
> > is to protect Islam. I think we see the same phenomenon in 
> > various systems of belief, where anything is fine if it is to 
> > protect the 'purity of the teaching', even if that means being 
> > dishonest in argumentation, intention and methods.
> 
> I can agree with this. I've seen it in dozens
> of spiritual groups.
>
I see it right here.:-)

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