Bhairitu wrote:
> Most meditative practices will lower stress.  
>
Do you know of any meditative practices that provide
the opportunity for transcending? Most of the TMers
I know all cite for a reason that they took to TM 
practice is because it worked so well and was so easy
to learn. They all reported that effortlessly being
able to transcend was the main reason they enjoyed
the program. I've tried several different techniques
over the years and listened to several different
teachers explain their system, but almost everyone
of them involved concentration of one kind or another.
It's very difficult to transcend when you're striving
to concentrate, almost counter-productive. I'm not
understanding how concentrating on the tip of your nose
would provide an opportunity for the transcending.
According to Soto Zen philosophy, the mere idea of
becoming enlightened is enough to prevent an effortless
transcending. Dogen Kigen used to teach that 'just
sitting' IS the enlightened state. So, what I'm asking
you, again, is who these teachers are who teach an
effortless transcending. The ones I know about are
the Deepackage, the Sri Sri, and maybe Bio-sound Bill.
You haven't cited a single teacher or a single technique 
that can compare to TM as a relaxation technique.

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