Billy wrote:
> > > > If it's like nothing you haven't experienced it!!
> > > > Pure bliss is not *nothing*.....
> > > >
> > jstein wrote: 
> > > We've already been through this, BillyG. I'm going
> > > to explain one more time how I understand MMY's
> > > teaching, and that'll be it; I'm not going to argue
> > > with you about it:
> > >
Richard J. Williams wrote:
> > However, in a previous post you did seem equate 
> > Brahman with 'nothing'
> >
> No, I didn't.
>
Yes you did, that's why Billy accused you of equating 
Brahman with "nothing", and that's why I tried to point 
out to you that, over and over, the Upanishads say that 
the attributes of Brahman are Sat-Cit-Ananda. Brahman is 
not "nothing", "empty", or a "void" - Brahman is the 
Absolute which is equal to Atman, the the very basis of 
Vedanta. There is no Atman in Middle Way Buddhism.

You need to get some smarts, Judy - the Vedanta of Shankara
is not Buddhism - Madhyamika. There are many differences. 
There is no absolute in Nagarjuna's Middle Way Buddhism.
According to Nagarjuna, the Shunya has no atrributes, it is
empty of OWN BEING. In Adwaita, the BEING is the 
Transcendental Person. According to S. Vidyasankarmost, 
Brahman is the material cause of the universe. But Nagarjuna
blows to bits this metaphysical notion in the first of his
Four Negations: there is no creation.

Now I'm not going to argue with you about it anymore. 

Maharishi's teaching on this subject has been established
by Billy. You attempted to explain Shankara's Vedanta by
equating it with Nagarjuna's Four Negation, which don't
apply to Adwaita. You were incorrect - you've been reading 
too much Ken Wilber.

S. Vidyasankar on Adwaita Vedanta:
http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/ad-phil.html

Judy wrote:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/141175

Here's Nagarjuna's Four Negations:

Brahman is not the relative.
Brahman is not the Absolute.
Brahman is not the relative and the Absolute.
Brahman is not neither the relative nor the Absolute.

Judy wrote:

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: willytex
Date: 16 Feb 2005 14:02:14 -0800
Subject: Re: Nagarjuna's Four Negations
http://tinyurl.com/2c3hyf

It cannot be called void or not void,
Or both or neither;
But in order to point it out,
It is called "the Void." 

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