---Thanks, much appreciated! The first part of your discussion (below) pertains to free will vs determinism, Dharmic behavior vs adharmic; and such matters. Definite conclusions in these topics are speculative; whereas the topics following that are a matter of your own direct experience; i.e. experiential reports. OTOH basing philosophical conclusions on heresay statements such as "I and My Father are One" are in the nature of speculative hypotheses. Short of definitive answers regarding topics such as free will and dharma; we are left with commonsense conclusions regarding the behavior of Gurus: if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, etc...it must be a duck. Similarly, the behavior of Gurus can be evaluated objectively without resort extraneous, unprovable philosophical assumptions. I don't know Swami G. But if he jaywalks, a cop should give him a ticket.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Firstly, I am not sure where it came from but I was even inquireing with Swami G in the > begining. Somehow I was under this impression that the enlightened can not say it and if > they do, then for sure, they are not. > > The response to that was nonsense, didn't Christ Say 'I and the Father are One", and I am > told Budda said things also. Swami G said, what is , is. So, I am telling it like it is when I > put this title to the post. I guess many people can also claim things like enlightenment or > awakened Kundalini, when it is not the case. > > Note I am not being a parakeet when I tell you that my experience is it is moving me > faster to enlightenment. Let me put it this way, I feel this very stronly. It is giving > experience of the things I hear are the signs of what enlightenment is. I reported in using > the term everything is falling away before i noticed it to be a common term used because > this is something many in my path are experiencing. > > Any opinion that disagrees with what I just said is like one telling me that I am wrong > about the ice cream tasting sweet. Anyway, I also confirm the blessing that it is by direct > experience. > > so this is the result of the Kundalini Path for me- and i responsibly emphasized that it is > not about chasing phenomina or trying to force it open or being under the care of one > that took 200 hours of yoga class or a reiki master with some weeks of training. I have > said the guide should be enlightened, having gone the whole journey from start to finish. > > This last paragraph is passing on info as well from my Guru. Now, I only told you what > happened with me, and it was a venture into the unknown by entering the path. That is > how it is, so addressing Alex, when you said your point, ok, your choice. I dont know how > your experiences would be, maybe similar, maybe entirely different. > > Swami G said mostly the ones with the hell are the ones where it opened spontaneously > and there is no guidance in place- they run to dr's and they have no clue what is taking > place. > > There are at least 4 people in the coming months that will be taking diksha ( initiation). > This is not a common event. since I took Diksha in may, 2006, there have been maybe 10, > some of them did not tell the truth and did not keep in touch as they agreed. swami G > cautions that this is not a momentary blessing. One of the commitments is to keep in > touch at least once a month, and to do the practices as given. She says it is better not to > take diksha if you are not going to honor those commitments because you will not get any > lasting benefit. People ignore that, take diksha , then fall off the path rather quickly and > they have lost their chance,- that is how Swami G puts it. > > All of the different stuff being offered here on FFL, it looks like the Universe is offering > choices. >
