Are you sure you are talking about *Judy* here? because what I am 
hearing is you talking to yourself Barry, all the way down. Has 
nothing to do with Judy, except as a device for your own 
distraction.:-)

--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Your *stories* are what are imprisoning you, Judy. You
> are like a person pacing back and forth in a tiny jail
> cell, the bars of which keep you from walking into the
> world of freedom and liberation that you glimpse through
> the bars and that you read about in the works of those
> who have "broken out of prison" before you.
> 
> What I think Rory is trying to say is that the bars of your
> jail cell don't exist. They are just a hologram, an image
> of a jail cell that has no real existence. The bars have
> no substance. The only thing that keeps you in place
> within the cell and keeps you from walking into the
> world of liberation is your *idea* that the cell is 
> real, that the "bars" are real.
> 
> For now, in my opinion, you seem to be terribly attached
> to the cell being real. You don't even try to rattle the bars
> or to examine them to see if they're real. You already
> "know" that they're real. Anyone who says differently is
> obviously fucking with you. So what you do when some-
> one tells you that the bars aren't real is to try to make the
> person who's telling you the truth feel bad about telling
> you the truth. You try to make the person who has caused
> you "pain" feel pain himself.
> 
> You talk about pain...well, I'll tell you...this whole process
> is more than a little painful to watch.
> 
> The attachment I see here is your attachment to things
> as they have been for your whole life. You've learned
> to cope with things the way they've been for your whole
> life. In your own words, you've "developed a thick skin."
> You've learned to ignore any information that seems
> contrary to the way things have been for your whole life.
> You say, "The bars are real; the cell is real; I really *am*
> a prisoner here, and I resent you who have tasted free-
> dom telling me that the reality I see around me *isn't*
> real." The attachment, in other words, is to attachment
> itself, to the status quo that you have developed a thick
> skin about, to nothing ever really changing.
> 
> The cell isn't real. The bars don't really exist. One day
> you're going to get tired of trying to intellectually under-
> stand enlightenment and just go for enlightenment. One
> day you're going to forget your self and its attachments
> and just start walking. And when you do, you'll find
> yourself outside the cell. It'll surprise the shit out of you.
> You'll probably walk back and look at it, just to see if
> it was real all this time. You'll reach out and touch the
> "bars" and your hand will go right through them, as if
> they weren't there. They weren't there. All that was
> ever there was your *story* about the bars, your sad,
> sad tale of being stuck in jail, unjustly.
> 
> You'll realize that there was never anything you could
> DO to escape from jail, because you were never in it
> in the first place. There IS no doing when it comes to
> escaping from the imaginary prison of self.
> 
> I hope for your sake that this happens soon. I know that
> it'll happen, in spite of your self's efforts to keep it from
> happening. That's the magic of self realization -- even
> the self can't keep itself from realization.
>


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