So here's a question for the group. One of the most
fundamental assumptions within the TMO, and in many
paths that see enlightenment as the end product of
their spiritual sadhana, is that *in* the state of
enlightenment one's perceptions are accurate, a true
reflection of reality.

The reasons given for this assumption are many, and
depend a lot on the set of buzzwords that the spiritual
tradition tends to use. In TM, the enlightened ones 
can perceive accurately because they have dissolved
all their stresses, or because they have gone beyond
karma, or they are in tune with the Laws Of Nature. In
other spiritual traditions it might be because they 
have dissolved their samskaras. Whatever...the assump-
tion is still there.

This assumption forms the entire *basis* of guru yoga.
"You should do what the guru says because he's *right*;
his perceptions are accurate, free from distortion, 
unclouded by the things that cloud our perceptions.
The enlightened being's 'take' on things equates to
Truth, because only in enlightenment can one begin to
*perceive* Truth." And so on and so on.

So who believes that this is true?

I, for one, do not. Based on my own experiences with
altered (or higher...your call) states of consciousness,
I find myself after four and a half decades on the 
spiritual path leaning towards, "Before enlightenment,
chop wood and carry water; after enlightenment, chop
wood and carry water." I don't think anything changes
in enlightenment. It's not really "achieving" enlight-
enment or "reaching" enlightenment; it's more like 
realizing that enlightenment has always already been 
present.

Having experienced this "always already present-ness"
aspect of enlightenment experiences, and having realized
that my perceptions of the world around me were no more
accurate or "unclouded" while these enlightenment exper-
iences were going on than when they weren't, it's a 
little difficult for me to believe in the "the enlight-
ened perceive perfectly and act perfectly" model. I
spent a whole story in the silly book I wrote dealing
with this ( http://ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm52.html ).

So let's open the question up to the group. This *is* a
really interesting group, full of strong spiritual seekers
who have spent the better part of their lives pursuing
enlightenment. So whaddyathink? When you realize your
own enlightenment (or now that you have), will your 
perceptions be (or are your perceptions now) 100% accurate,
unclouded by any stress or samskaras or anything that 
could render them less than objective truth, or Cosmic
Truth?

I'm interested in hearing what people have to say. *Not*
to argue with, but just to hear the different points of
view folks here might have when dealing with what is,
in my opinion, one of the most fundamental assumptions
underlying the TM approach to enlightenment.



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