--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* > > > that you might not be. Did I get that right, Jim? > > > > > You are missing what I and many others have already said again and > > again here. Enlightenment is not experienced on the level of > thinking. > > It is a state of Being. This is not my original expression-- All of > > the gurus and spiritual teachers say this also. Given your > background, > > I am surprised that you don't know this yet. Your level of > ignorance > > astounds me.:-) > > It's a little like accusing somebody of refusing > even to *think* they might be dreaming rather > than awake. When you're awake, it's self-evident > you aren't dreaming. (Not "self-evident" meaning > "obvious," but rather evident in terms of itself.)
I am not so sure. Some interesting literature an epistimologies makes that very presumption -- that we are dreaming but think we are awake. Parallel to Plato's cave, perhaps. I think some here, perhaps Rory and Jim, have expressed something of that sort. I do know that when you are dreaming, its hard to accept that you are dreaming -- but assume you are awake. Though sometimes in the dream, you can be aware its a dream. But not so often, i think. >
