--- In [email protected], "mathatbrahman" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---Nope I disagree. The questions below are legitimate, of 
interest, 
> and potentially of value; but obviously not to Neo-Advaitins who 
> believe that nothing exists anyway. 

I said, "essentially a waste of time *unless* they're areas you're 
personally feeling particular pain and suffering in," the object  
being to realize one's eternal liberation from bondage and suffering. 
If you're not interested in liberation from suffering in this moment, 
of course, then feel free to inquire about whatever floats your boat, 
but it would be a mistake to equate that with "the work" :-)

As for Buddhists, Sakyamuni 
> Buddha stated that there's not enough time to investigate natural 
> laws and also do one's Spiritual Sadhana.  I disagree with that 
also, 
> since due to MMY's brilliant innovations, doing all-day Sadhanas 
(as 
> possibly some Monks in various traditions) is the real waste of 
> time.  Best to do TM and then do something "productive" like stroll 
> around the mall and then see "Transformers".

Yes, no doubt the Buddha was mistaken -- after all, he didn't know 
you -- if he did, he would doubtless agree with you that doing TM and 
then strolling around the mall and  seeing "Transformers" is better 
for you in this moment.  :-) 

Actually, I'm quite serious about this: I am certainly not going to 
try to push "the work" or anything else down your throat! It's your 
life, until it isn't :-)

*L*L*L*

>  In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that
> > > > > what new.morning was getting at is whether you or
> > > > > anyone who considers themselves enlightened are
> > > > > willing to "do the work" on your assumption that
> > > > > you're enlightened.
> > > > 
> > > > Basically, as I understand it, one does "the work" on oneself 
> in 
> > areas 
> > > > in which one feels pain or suffering, as these are signs of 
> > incorrect 
> > > > thinking or thinking "not in alignment with nature;" there is 
> no 
> > need 
> > > > to examine ideas that don't hurt :-)
> > > >  
> > > 
> > > Nothing in stone says that the work can't be used in other 
ways. I
> > > don't have an understanding of any limits placed on the Work. 
> Ron's
> > > recent post added to questions for interesting inquiries to use 
> the
> > > Work for?
> > > 
> > > Answers to the following questions seem to me to be fair game 
for 
> > the
> > > Work -- and useful:
> > > 
> > > Who am I?
> > > Is the world real?
> > > Do i accurately precieve and cognize what is "out there"?
> > > Does God exist?
> > > Is TM a great thing / a not good thing?
> > > Am I useful for others?
> > > Do I make judgements, and pre-judgments that are not necessary?
> > > Where dos the sky end?
> > > What was there before the universe was created -- the big bang?
> > > Is global warming a large threat?
> > > Should everyone drive a hybrid?
> > > Is Tarantino a good director / writer?
> > > Do bears shite in the woods?
> > > Is April really the cruelest month?
> > > Is the sky really blue?
> > > Are the colors I see really the colors of the things  I see?
> > > Is there life after death?
> > > Is fear real or useful?
> > > Who is Jesus?
> > > Who is SBS?
> > > Is Peter judgemental?
> > > Is Bush corrupt?
> > > Did the govt blow up the twin towers?
> > > Should capital gains tax be eliminated?
> > > Are apples the best PC's?
> > > Should the work only be done on areas in which one feels pain or
> > > suffering?
> > > Can one delude themselves about a state of being, a state of
> > > consciousness,  an altered state of consciousness,  perceptions,
> > > cognitive functions?
> > > Does God love me?
> > > Is Alison Krauss the best singer in the universe?
> > >  
> > > Of course, you might suggest that these are all areas 
> > > in which I feel pain or suffering.
> > 
> > No; much like Jim, I'd suggest these are essentially a waste of 
> time 
> > *unless* they're areas you're personally feeling particular pain 
> and 
> > suffering in. I would (if asked) further suggest working first on 
> the 
> > areas in which I feel the *most* suffering, in this moment, if 
any  
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > > I would work on:
> > > 
> > > How would Rory know what I feel and think inside?
> > > Do I care if Rory is mistaken?
> > 
> > Whatever floats your boat :-)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> >
>


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