On Jul 30, 2007, at 3:36 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:

--- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Him:
> No, I don't have time to clarify my position right now but you
might
> remember that I don't doubt the notion of continuous witnessing
(in fact,
> I've had very long stretches of it) nor even of "celestial vision/
god
> consciousness" (though it is defined and described variously);
it's just
> that direct experiences has taught me that these experiences are
not very
> valuable. I don't call these states enlightenment, thought they
DO fit
> the Hindu model of what the term (in it's various forms: bodhi,
> jivanmukta, brahmavidya, etc.) means.

This reminds me of what Rory said a few posts back about CC, GC and
UC being transitory states.

Yet this is just new age speculation. The tradition itself is very clear on what "UC", videha-mukti, is and it is not a transitional state.

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