Duveyoung wrote: > I think this article ( > http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2255.shtml ) pulls all > my triggers-of-paranoia. I distrust my paranoia, because it warps my > logic structures into a blindness I can only see, later, when my > vision's balance has been restored by calming down, time passing and > new information gotten. > So does the weatherman when he says "50% chance of rain today" make you paranoid? I think you are misinterpreting why the article was written. They're merely pointing out the possibility. And unless you're a "new age ostrich" or taking the blue pill then you would have noticed as these guys well point out the writing on the wall that points towards Bush possibly declaring martial and suspending elections. They also do a good job of pointing it out.
This article does not make me paranoid. It makes me angry. It makes me want to do something about it. I am a responsible human being not a new age laissez faire "it's all just illusion" type I will contact my Congressman and tell him to get off his duff and support impeachment now. Back in April when he was in the area I attended a discussion between him Rabbi Michael Lerner of Tikkun. People at the talk demanded impeachment and George Miller's response was "in the meantime the war continue's on." I hope he now sees the road to ending the war is ending this administration and not in tea party mode waiting for the next election. > I went through this with the Y2K paranoia. It is so easy to imagine > things which in hindsight become mere forehead-slappers of "what was I > thinking?" I knew my worst predictions about Y2K were NOT going to > manifest about four or five months before New Year's Day 2000 -- there > wasn't any "panic" in the markets etc. and by that time, insiders > should have had all there families bundling up and stocking food, > gold, buying generators, etc. -- but nope, all the electricity > companies had their workers reporting "as usual," store shelves stayed > stocked, stock markets was steady, etc. But until that point, the > electricity companies (and every other corporate entity) were lawyered > up and refusing to answer detailed questions about their readiness, > how much work had been done and what more was still left to do. Big > brains in the computer message-board-communities fanned the paranoia > and insisted that there were not enough COBOL programmers etc. to get > the job done in time -- all that, plus the rest of the world had done > just about NOTHING. > > Yet, nothing happened, no major shut downs, nadda. To this day, I > still don't understand why the Y2K glitch didn't bring our world to > its knees. But in early 1999 what was a father of four kids to do? > In August, 1999 I had $20,000 in food and supplies, had moved my > family to a liquid water year-round, rural, self sufficient community > hundreds of miles from a large city, had a garden, additionally > belonged to a community which had four acres of root veggies growing, > and I'd bought a shotgun too. That was a big price to pay for > paranoia, eh? From TM priest to "don't tread on me mofo" was an easy > transformation -- er, maybe. Maybe I always was a mofo and was > TMishly pretending that I was, what?, a flower child of God? Yeah, > something like that. > I'm a computer programmer, Duvey. You didn't have the problems with Y2K because a lot of companies spent money and programmer time fixing things. Lots of bugs were found. I had friends involved in those projects and told me of the bugs they found. If that hadn't happened there would have been a real mess. > Just so, I wonder where my cut-off-point will be on this article's > type of thinking for me. I certainly cannot gainsay any paranoia at > this point. What with the "stealing" of the last two elections, the > fact that Gore and Kerry and all the Democrats laid down and "took > it," the momentum of the Military Industrial Complex, the Katrina > response, Bushco, and on and on, what isn't possible? If Bill Clinton > twiddled his thumbs while half a million Africans were hacked to > death, the paranoia doubles its intensity, because we cannot even call > the Democrats "the good guys." One well-placed bomb can get the > headlines Bush needs to declare Martial Law and suspend elections -- > what's that evil compared to millions killed around the world by us in > the last few years? Evil drips off of us -- like a foul sludge left > on us after a tsunami of diarrhea had washed over our entire > continent. I think that that's a bigtime paranoid thought, but after > the 9-11 towers fell, what isn't logical to put on a list of > possibilities? And, if that's too dramatic, why not the "lesser" plan > of Bushco simply stealing the elections again? I'd love to tell > myself this is another Y2K thingie, but on what basis would I do so? > > We've got torture chambers around the world -- everyone knows this. > If someone is saying that more facts about the state of the world are > needed in order to get motivated to be politically active, I'd say > that that someone is an immoral broken crazy meat robot. Evil. I > mean, the airwaves are filled with hate for a football player who > tortures dogs, but we get almost nothing in the headlines about the > bombed people of Iraq, Dafur, and, well, why detail it, just call it > the utter choke-hold with which the first world strangles the third. > We laugh at the Soup Nazi on Seinfeld, and yet, "No water for you" is > what our government is saying to almost all of the world. For the > cost on two aircraft carriers, we could give fresh clean water to the > ENTIRE THIRD WORLD. http://www.purewaterfortheworld.org/faq/ > > The strange part in all this is that I'm thinking, "Thank God for the > National Rifle Association." 90 million guns indeed. Suddenly, > Charlton Heston's blurb about only losing his gun when it is "pried > from my cold dead hands," gives me a wondrous sense of having a > "people's army" that could arise if a dictatorship such as we have > right now begins to really exercise its muscles and starts pushing > people around bigtime. Here, I'm showing my racism -- for haven't all > people of color been hounded by these very same kinds of machinations > for hundreds of years? Aren't the marijuana laws on the books so that > we can "behead" the Black-American culture, take away the right to > vote from Black Americans by slapping a drug-rap on them and forcing > their families onto welfare? Is there a Native American who thinks > the Blacks' treatment-by-whites is anything different from their many > trails of tears that they marched? When they come for "us whites," > don't expect to see a tear drop fall for us from those who have been > wrung dry of all such tears. > > We think we're all so modern, but emotionally, we're all about as > feral as the folks who lopped off the heads of royalty in the French > Revolution. What would it take for the 90 million guns to be loaded > and every politician targeted? I don't know, but Ruby Ridge can > happen any time, any place, again, and again, and again. What would > it take for you to load your gun? Your kids being branded with a > barcode? Yeah, that'd do it. A national identity badge for them, > well then, not so much. What would it take? 7PM curfew for everyone? > Cameras on every corner? Swat teams combing your neighborhood and > bashing down your doors looking for subversive literature? What would > it take? Not much, eh? If you had a gun and some soldier was keeping > you from filling your water bucket while others were allowed to do so, > would you lock and load then? Given how "trigger happy" our 90 > million gun owners are, I confidently predict that no politician will > be alive if they allow anything like the above paranoid scenarios to > happen. Yet, racism again here, what about the above scenarios is > "all that harsh" compared to what our country subjects the third world > to EVERY SINGLE DAY? > So you own a gun? I agree that gun ownership has prevented a lot of coupes in this country. But look what happened with Katrina. They went around taking away guns. Some good guns will do if they take them away from you. Personally I think the cops have been given too much power since 9-11. They used to just dress up in light uniforms with the idea they were "peace officers." Now they were black uniforms (which I hear a mandate or recommendation from Homeland Security), loaded down with all kinds of weaponry and strut around like the Gestapo. These guys are too dumb to be given such power. > Gee, do you think Osama Bin Laden has to really be a great leader or > charismatic or a deep thinker to get a rabble roused? What would it > take for you to strap on a twenty pound bomb and walk into a police > station? Your kids dying of thirst might, right? For anyone of us to > be offended that the world hates America is prima facie evidence of > moral degradation of the lowest sort. We have trod on all with a jack > boot stomp that makes Nazi carnage pale. What's six million Jews > killed compared to 1.2 billion folks being made to drink from ditches > and watch their kids die at a 10,000 per day rate? Do the math -- > every two years we kill six million more, mostly children, by keeping > simple hygiene from them. > > This is the Holocaust of our generation. > > And what value all the above words even if spoken by a national > leader? Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nadar, Ron Paul, Mike Gravel have > gotten close enough to wordifying the angst, but none of them will be > elected, right? The wife of thumb twiddler is ahead in the polls -- > this just shows how little clarity the electorate has at this point -- > Clinton is a mass murderer and his wife cannot be all that different, > right? But what are the headlines? Hillary's neckline. Mass media > keeps the real news off the front page. > > In Minnesota, the bridge fell. That's a symbol of our aging social > structures. Good old boys have had their way for centuries, and now, > with populations swelling, with whole countries running on foot to > another country, the way things have always been run just isn't > working anymore. As their black heartedness is exposed, these > backroom monsters are forced to ever worse measures to keep a lid on > it all. > > And today, I'll eat like a king, have a shower, be entertained up the > yin and out the yang, pour carbon into the air, and deny my part in > all of the evil. I'll look into my pantry and sigh that I have > nothing to eat, look into my closet and sigh that I have nothing to > wear, look at my garage and sigh that I can't fit any more stuff into it. > You've been infected with "affluenza" much to the joy of the C and D students that became business people. This is why the business class should not rule the world. I'm on a big downsizing campaign around here getting rid of as much clutter as I can. Being a creative person I can understand why you have an overstuffed garage. Only left-brained anal retentive types seem to maintain a neat house (and not much more). > I need to look into my heart, right? I need to look as deeply and as > long as I can until I get whatever I need to get to become a part of > the solution. How I long for the days when the Maharishi Effect was a > truth to me. Now, all I can see is that I'm on top of the food chain > and those looking at me from below cannot tell much difference between > me and Bush. > > And they're right. > > Edg > You might want to look in to the concept of "predictive programming" and how much of your mind has been programmed. I'm a big fan of Alan Watt, the transplanted Scotsman who now lives in Canada and does weekly blurbs on the topic. Warning if you listen to him you will cease to believe in anything and finally begin to see the truth. But some people can't handle the truth. http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/index.html BTW, he has quite a theory about TM being a Freemason plot. > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "It is time to think about the "unthinkable." >> >> The Bush administration has both the inclination and the power to cancel >> the 2008 election. >> >> The GOP strategy for another electoral theft in 2008 has taken clear >> shape, though we must assume there is much more we don't know. >> >> But we must also assume that if it appears to Team Bush/Cheney/Rove that >> the GOP will lose the 2008 election anyway (as it lost in Ohio 2006), we >> cannot ignore the possibility that they would simply cancel the >> election. Those who think this crew will quietly walk away from power >> are simply not paying attention. >> >> The real question is not how or when they might do it. It's how, >> realistically, we can stop them." >> >> More here: >> http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2255.shtml >> >> >> I think the time for impeachment is ripe as ever. >> >> > > > >
