--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The personal identity of our "ego" is not an enemy that we 
> should have an antagonistic relationship with.  

What he said. Those who spend their lives trying
to get away from or "destroy" their egos are IMO 
spending their lives trying to get away from or
"destroy" life. It's *just* as much a form of
attachment as any other, and far more destructive
than many.

The whole problem exists in my opinion because 
people have chosen spiritual paths in which the
progress is so SLOW that they've become convinced 
that they have only *one* ego, *one* self. If they
were on more of a "fast track," they'd experience
the death of one ego/self and the rebirth of a new
one several times a day. And *if* that had happened,
they might not have come to believe that they WERE 
the ego. Instead it could have beeb perceived as just 
a thing that you "put on" and "wear" for a while. 
Having one is no more significant or binding than 
putting on and wearing clothes. 

Do your *clothes* "bind" you? ( Well, maybe, if you
can't admit that you've gained weight and still 
try to wear the same sizes you wore in high school,
but I mean for most people. :-) Your ego has no more
substance than the jeans and T-shirt you wear while
relaxing, and has no more binding effect on you than
the suit you might wear to the office. And *changing*
egos or selves is no more difficult than changing your
clothes.

> Even in a spiritual view where it is viewed as the "small" 
> self, it is still a critical quality of your personal identity.  
> For me "ego" describes the cluster of beliefs born from 
> experiences that make up my perception of who I am and what my
> values are.  

I see it more as the "viewer" of my beliefs. The beliefs
change from day to day, and so does the viewer. Neither
are me. Why take seriously and get all bent out of shape
about something that isn't going to be around for very long?  :-)

> I believe there has been an incorrect conflation between
> the concepts of "ego trip" and "ego" which has unfairly 
> demonized a core part of our identity, leading to a sort of 
> self-hate or at least self mistrust.  

Which, interestingly enough, from my perspective is
enough in itself to prohibit enlightenment. The more you 
hate or distrust your self or your ego, the more it binds 
you.



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