--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> > wrote: > > > > Shemp, why the strong need for Ron to do TM? > > > > > For the same reason that I feel "the strong need" (although I > wouldn't use those words myself) for Rick Archer to do TM: for years > they preached that very thing to not hundreds but thousands of > people. And here they are abandoning it. > > I find that hypocritical. Practise what you preach. > > I am irked that people like Ron and Rick abandon TM when they weren't > doing it properly (see my last post on this in response to Ron). > They both had adopted Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as their personal guru > and had somehow mixed this up with the TM Program practise, got > disillusioned with that guru, and abandoned TM. > > Gurus have nothing to do with the TM Program. You'll told that > implicitly in the first 5 minutes of the first step of the 7-step TM > Program (the into lecture) when the instructor said: TM is neither a > religion or a philosophy. > > I say: first do TM properly, THEN decide whether or not it works > properly, THEN quit doing it, THEN tell us all the problems it > created for you. Until then, shut the fuck up. > > But don't stand there after being a spokeman for something for > decades in which you instructed people to do something a certain way > and then abandon that very practise which you weren't even doing the > correct way. >
What does you mean "the correct way"? Surely sitting down twice a day and doing the prog is doing it the "right way" regardless of whether you've adopted a guru relationship or not. I don't remember being told that I couldn't have MMY as a guru, quite the opposite in fact. It's a common belief that the fastest way to enlightenment is by obeying the guru's every word. It's actively encouraged, the whole point of the teacher "recertification programme" and "global citizens of world peace" was to get a bunch of people who would obey MMY without question. Where would the TMO be if everyone thought like you and me? It needs it's Bevans and Hagelins to survive. I don't blame people for giving it up once they'd realised how crap it was all becoming, probably didn't want any reminder at all.
