--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm wondering what value Charlie Lutes tapes have for most of us > > > here. > > > > > > I think just about everyone has posted something negative about > > > his prognostications -- my contribution was that I personally > > > heard him predict that in a couple years (1974 at the time) there > > > would be a "finding of the space ship Jesus used to come to earth > > > parked inside the pyramid." When I personally asked him about > > > this prediction a decade later, he denied ever saying it. > > > > [snip] > > > > I knew Charlie personally for 20 years. You're lying that he made > > such a claim about Jesus in a spaceship. > > Hell hath no fury like someone who's been taken > in by a charlatan for 20 years. :-) > > I'm just going to sit back and enjoy Edg taking > John to the cleaners over this one. Unlike him, > I can't claim to be omniscient about what Edg > heard and didn't hear. :-) > > What I can be more than a little certain about > is Charlie's tendency to lie with a straight > face. There was a time when International Staff > was getting reports of odd things he was reported > to be saying in his Friday night meetings -- stuff > about space aliens and Jesus reappearing, etc. So > the Regional Office assigned me to go to a few of > his talks to find out. > > I did, because Charlie's on a Friday night was the > best pickup spot in town. :-) Charlie talked a blue > streak in those meetings, about all sorts of stuff > that was clearly "off the program," and worse, he > *never made a distinction between what was stuff > he read in books or made up himself and what > Maharishi taught*. He just lumped it all together, > so the people in the audience were left with the > impression that it all came from Maharishi. > > I reported back what I had heard, and even gave > them tape recordings I had made on my little mini- > recorder. When asked a little later by one of the > Regional Coordinators whether he'd said these things, > Charlie denied ever having said a word of it. Where- > upon the RC played Charlie the tape. Charlie supposedly > (I wasn't there at the time, thank god, or I'd prob- > ably still have an astral Charlie on my ass from beyond > the grave) stormed out of the room red-faced. > > Did Charlie Lutes lie? Like a rug. > > But then so do most human beings, especially those > who lie to themselves a lot. > > I now leave John in the loving hands of Edg, whom > he has called a liar. May John R.I.P. :-)
Your long term reputation for self-serving bullshit precedes you Barry. And your attempts to outdo those who see through your elaborately constructed ego trip are transparent. You're you're own worst enemy. After all of your varied 'experiences' which you hold as a support to your act, you're still a fraud. I'm not the only one who sees it clearly.
