Adam, Thankfully I'm not looking for a job - but it's nice to know I'm disqualified for your fine institution (whatever it is) in advance.... Saves me a stamp. I'll see your lack of interest in my career and safely double it on yours. Thankfully all of our wiki researcher positions are filled at the moment :) Tightly defining something that is already as vague as a "framework" does not encourage adoption. I probably agree with you on the whole - I just don't think it is a useful endevour to argue semantics when the goal is to encorage adoption. So I guess that makes me anti-semantic.
Should I have said "less wiki and more Dr. Phil"? -Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Frameworks: FarCry now listed Mark, Frameworks in general are (quoting from wiki here): In software development, a *framework* is a defined support structure in which another software project can be organized and developed. A framework <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_framework> may include support programs, code libraries <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_%28computer_science%29>, a scripting language <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language>, or other software <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software> to help develop and /glue together/ the different components of a software project. There are also links to Content Management Frameworks aka Content Management Systems, which I think is where Farcry sits. It is not what I would call a framework, because Farcry as a framework does not dictate to me how to organize and develop my code. Getting vague about this isn't good, because if you stick Farcry down as one of the frameworks you know on your CV, I wouldn't employ you ;) It's a CMS. Adam Mark A Kruger wrote: > Adam, > > I have noted that frameworks are so UNLIKE each other as to defy > attempts to fit them into a concise definition. You can do things with > Farcry that you can do with a framework and it does provide a > methodology and abstraction. A tighter definition of frameworks will > only make them more frustrating and less accessible. What is needed is > a little less webster and a little more Dr. Phil :) > > -mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Adam Reynolds > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Frameworks: FarCry now listed > > > Erm Farcry is it really a framework? Most CMS' are extendable. It's > there selling point, but it's not a framework. It's a "if you want to > play ball, you have to do it this way". > > In fact I would say that Farcry is an application that could have been > written in any frameworks. > > Frameworks don't start by offering you a CMS solution. > > I really think this is fundamentally misunderstanding what a framework is. > That or this is a PR exercise. > > > Mark A Kruger wrote: > >> Geoff, >> >> I noted your comment about building a blog in 10 minutes..... Is >> there any documentation for using Farcry as an application framework? >> >> -mark >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:35 AM >> To: farcry-dev >> Subject: [farcry-dev] Frameworks: FarCry now listed >> >> >> Folks, >> >> If you enjoy FarCry for building applications you might take a moment >> to vote for FarCry as a framework here: >> >> > http://cfframeworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/10/20/Rate-your-favorite-c > oldfus > >> ion-framework >> >> geoff >> http://www.daemon.com.au/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "farcry-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
