Hehe... Glad to see we all have a sense of humor... 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Adam Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Frameworks: FarCry now listed


ROFL You're hired :)

I just promote Farcry as a very good extensible CMS, but I wouldn't group it
with Fusebox/Mach-II/Model-Glue.

I look at frameworks as allowing a team of people to code in a particular
way. There are obvious variance with code style, but it should generally be
understandable by the team.

Anyway...back to the grind stone.



Mark A Kruger wrote:
> Adam,
>
> Thankfully I'm not looking for a job - but it's nice to know I'm 
> disqualified for your fine institution (whatever it is) in advance.... 
> Saves me a stamp. I'll see your lack of interest in my career and 
> safely double it on yours. Thankfully all of our wiki researcher 
> positions are filled at the moment :)  Tightly defining something that 
> is already as vague as a "framework" does not encourage adoption. I 
> probably agree with you on the whole - I just don't think it is a 
> useful endevour to argue semantics when the goal is to encorage adoption.
So I guess that makes me anti-semantic.
>
>  Should I have said "less wiki and more Dr. Phil"?
>
> -Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Adam Reynolds
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Frameworks: FarCry now listed
>
>
> Mark,
> Frameworks in general are (quoting from wiki here): In software 
> development, a *framework* is a defined support structure in which 
> another software project can be organized and developed. A framework 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_framework> may include support 
> programs, code libraries 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_%28computer_science%29>, a 
> scripting language <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language>, 
> or other software <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software> to help 
> develop and /glue together/ the different components of a software
project.
>
> There are also links to Content Management Frameworks aka Content 
> Management Systems, which I think is where Farcry sits. It is not what 
> I would call a framework, because Farcry as a framework does not 
> dictate to me how to organize and develop my code.
>
> Getting vague about this isn't good, because if you stick Farcry down 
> as one of the frameworks you know on your CV, I wouldn't employ you ;)
It's a CMS.
>
> Adam
>
> Mark A Kruger wrote:
>   
>> Adam,
>>
>> I have noted that frameworks are so UNLIKE each other as to defy 
>> attempts to fit them into a concise definition. You can do things 
>> with Farcry that you can do with a framework and it does provide a 
>> methodology and abstraction. A tighter definition of frameworks will 
>> only make them more frustrating and less accessible. What is needed 
>> is a little less webster and a little more Dr. Phil :)
>>
>> -mark
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Adam Reynolds
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:43 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Frameworks: FarCry now listed
>>
>>
>> Erm Farcry is it really a framework? Most CMS' are extendable. It's 
>> there selling point, but it's not a framework. It's a "if you want to 
>> play ball, you have to do it this way".
>>
>> In fact I would say that Farcry is an application that could have 
>> been written in any frameworks.
>>
>> Frameworks don't start by offering you a CMS solution.
>>
>> I really think this is fundamentally misunderstanding what a framework
is.
>> That or this is a PR exercise.
>>
>>
>> Mark A Kruger wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Geoff,
>>>
>>> I noted your comment about building a blog in 10 minutes..... Is 
>>> there any documentation for using Farcry as an application framework?
>>>
>>> -mark
>>>  
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:35 AM
>>> To: farcry-dev
>>> Subject: [farcry-dev] Frameworks: FarCry now listed
>>>
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> If you enjoy FarCry for building applications you might take a 
>>> moment to vote for FarCry as a framework here:
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> http://cfframeworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/10/20/Rate-your-favorite-
>> c
>> oldfus
>>   
>>     
>>> ion-framework
>>>
>>> geoff
>>> http://www.daemon.com.au/
>>>
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