On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, C Bobroff wrote:

> > thing. He may look at the charts, and he will either choose U+06D5, or
> > <U+0647, U+0645> (HEH, HAMZA ABOVE),
> I guess you mean U+0654.

Yes. Just a typo.

> In any case, neither is acceptable. The hamzeh ends up really high above
> the heh depending on the font.

You should find a better font, or create one yourself, then. Unicode does
not specify anything about broken fonts, or fonts that are not suitable 
for some purpose or other. It only specifies how you should encode the 
text. There are mechanisms in OpenType, AAT, or Graphite fonts who provide 
mechanisms for 'accent positioning' (as they call it).

> Well, I'm unable to understand all this and I guess I'm wasting your
> time which was not my intention.

No, your more than welcome.

> If you have any suggestion of how I can make a web page with the character
> heh+hamzeh, please let me know.

I don't have any objections if you use U+06C0, or anything else that makes
your web page display as you wish, as long as you don't propagate your
solution, if it's non-stnadard. After all, Persian support is far from
complete and stable in Windows and Internet Explorer.

> I can type it very nicely in any of the usual Persian fonts (nazanin,
> roya, koodak, etc) but it comes out as teh marbuta on a computer without
> these fonts installed and for which Times New Roman is the default
> browser font.

These fonts are more than non-standard. They use U+0629 for it, which
belongs to TEH MARBUTA. No surprise with a more standard font you see it
that way.

> Of course, even if the TNR font adds this character today, it will be
> years before everyone has downloaded the updated version.

It should have the U+06C0, but it may not be adequate for your purposes.

> Unless you can give some other advice, I think I'll just have to
> find a way to embed a font with this character on my webpage. Maybe
> even this won't work. ???

I don't know. You have a problem NOW, I was discussing the problem of
future, and what is the correct usage. All this thread started that way. 
See the first mail in the thread:

        http://lists.sharif.edu/pipermail/farsiweb/2002-May/000242.html

roozbeh

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