Dear Mr Eslami,

In a month or two, Windows 95 would be 9 years old, and Windows
98 some 6 years old.  Caring for people using 6 years old
not-updated software in a market that things happen as fast as
twice the speed each eighteen months, is like publishing vinyls
as well as tapes and Audio CDs.

If you feel like a pro web designer, please consider having your
web pages work under non-IE browsers (not saying they are not).
You may consider publishing your content for non-Unicode IE 3
Windows 3.1 based systems, as they happen to quite common just
one year before that Windows 95 thing that you happen to support.
Also there are people using Lynx and other text browsers, that
you may wish to transliterate for them, if these are the best you
deduce from web design rules.

Behdad 'just another flame war' Esfahbod

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote:

> Dear Mr. Connie,
> Thank you for your time to write me a kind reply.
> Sir, I never use Arabic "Yeh" and "Keh" on my website. I'm looking to the
> future and to web standards. I'm trying to help others.
> Do you know the story of "Yeh" and "Keh" problem?
> WinXP users are able to view all Farsi characters correctly, but Win9x users
> cannot view the "Yeh (U+06CC)" and "Keheh (U+06A9)" correctly, because of an
> old version of -default installed- Fonts like Tahoma.
> Currently there are two methods to solve this problem:
> 1) Using Arabic "Yeh" and "Keh" in our web site; so every user reads the
> content correctly. (The user will see Arabic version of "Yeh", which has two
> dots below of "Yeh")
> 2) Ask your visitors to download a newer version of  fonts, especailly
> "Nesf" or "Tahoma"; then Win9x users will also able to view the "Yeh" and
> "Keh" correctly.
> But:
> First method, INFECTS the "Web's Farsi Content" with Arabic characters. (You
> can type Arabic Yeh in your WinXP keyboard map by pressesing Shift+X)
> Second method, contains a Web Usability Mistake. It is not a good idea to
> ask your "Web Site Visitors" to download fonts to read the content. A Web
> Usability principle says: Design a Usable web site, instead of asking your
> visitors to make the website Usable for themselves.
> I hope you get me my mission,
> My PHP Function Library, makes you able to design a USABLE FARSI website.
> Your visitors no longer need to install an fonts, You can use Farsi "Yeh"
> and "Keh".
> But how I solve the problem for Win9x users?
> Follow this algorithm:
> if (win9x_user) {
>   output "Arabic Content"
> }
> else {
>   output "Farsi Content"
> }
> I'll tell you more soon. This is not a game, I'm not a newbie programmer
> also.
> I'm a professional XHTML/CSS/PHP webmaster. I'm just trying to do my best
> effort to make the farsi websites more READBLE and USABLE.
> That's all.
> > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:08:32 -0800 (PST)
> > From: C Bobroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Proud To be An Iranian
> > To: "Sh. Farzanehfar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Message-ID:
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > Shahram,
> > Not meaning to pick on you personally, but why have you used
> > Arabic Letter Kaf (0643) and Arabic Letter Yeh (064A) on your website?
> >
> > I'm truly, honestly asking out of curiosity.  Were the Arabic letters
> > already mapped to your keyboard or did you reprogram it yourself?  Maybe
> > you didn't notice??
> >
> > Especially on this very day when someone else has just posted the
> > "solution" to this problem (well, it is not the solution, it is a
> > whitewash but maybe better than nothing), I really can't resist asking and
> > hope you don't get offended. I just can't help wonder since some of us are
> > having to take tranquilizers before looking at Persian websites lest the
> > dots under those Yeh's lead to certain nervous disorders as already
> > discussed on this list.
> >
> > -Connie
> >
> > PS Where is Joe? Did you see over on your
> >
> > they appear to now be using the Persian equivalents on selected newer
> > articles.  I think there is hope on the horizon!
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Sh. Farzanehfar wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hope to See all of you Good Friends up there, in a near Future. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shahram Farzanehfar
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