I hear ya Fern! Did feck all today and have company on Wednesday.
Needed to take a break from it. Alot of cramming to do tomorrow!

On Sep 29, 7:37 pm, Fern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Fred thing must have been something relating to the fact that
> accessories are as liable as the main perpetrator and if the main perp
> is dead then can Bertie be charged. That's what I put.
> For Tess I just did the Stone & Dobinson stuff etc.
> Anyway, there's no point in obsessing now!!
>
> Finding it so hard to get into the company way of thinking!!! Is
> anyone else exhausted?
>
> On Sep 29, 7:27 pm, aviationhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Fern, re Fred Dying in Q7, I just mentioned that it would be
> > 'impossible' to convict him for the crime due to the fact that he had
> > died.
>
> > As for Criminal Negligence in Q3, I think you are correct re Seamus,
> > However I think that the Negligence was on the part of Tess. She had
> > voluntarily assumed the responsibility of
> > taking care of Elaine and as such by neglecting to provide her with
> > specialist care and leaving her in that state, she failed in her duty,
> > thereby causing death.
>
> > On Sep 29, 7:16 pm, Fern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > For Q7 I did attempted murder, incitement, conspiracy and accessory at
> > > the fact. I didn't really get the significant of Fred dying in the
> > > middle of it...
>
> > > I didn't see criminal negligence manslaughter in Q3 - I thought it was
> > > an omission to struggle, as in Bland v NHS Airedale and Ward of Court.
> > > I thought Seamus was in the clear because of the large body of medical
> > > opinion backing him up. Now I'm worried...
>
> > > On Sep 29, 6:49 pm, Doodles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > Will someone put me out of my misery and tell me what offences you
> > > > thought were relevant to each of the four parts of Question 7?
>
> > > > Thanks!
>
> > > > On Sep 29, 5:34 pm, tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Exactly, onwards and upwards!!
>
> > > > > Trying to get started on constitutional now but have a lot of criminal
> > > > > crap floating around in my head!!
>
> > > > > On Sep 29, 5:32 pm, aviationhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Theres only two things that im disapointed with really;
>
> > > > > > (a) I talked so much about Sexual Asault on the question about the
> > > > > > girl getting her clothes stripped off and
> > > > > > ended up forgetting to mention S3 re Aggravated Sexual Assault. 
> > > > > > What a
> > > > > > silly mistake, and
>
> > > > > > (b) I only had an outline knowledge of Inchoate Offences and
> > > > > > Complicity so one of the 4 parters suffered!!
>
> > > > > > As for the Criminal Negligence, I used it in relation to the
> > > > > > principles as outlined in Dunleavy and in Holloway re Tess breaching
> > > > > > her voluntarily
> > > > > > assumed duty towards Elaine.
>
> > > > > > But I suppose whats done is done at this stage and we can only do 
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > best.
>
> > > > > > On Sep 29, 5:09 pm, tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > My first one too. Was v nervous this morning but so happy to have
> > > > > > > first one over with.
>
> > > > > > > I did mention criminal negligence too in respect of the doctor.
>
> > > > > > > So much information in the questions and found it took long time 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > read them all, in order to decide which ones to do...
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 29, 5:07 pm, aviationhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I did the same as you so lets hope that we are somewhat on the 
> > > > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > track then!!
>
> > > > > > > > As for the Omissions question, did anyone mention the 
> > > > > > > > possibility of
> > > > > > > > Criminal Negligence Manslaughter charges being brought?
>
> > > > > > > > And Yeah all of the questions were quite busy alright. It was 
> > > > > > > > my first
> > > > > > > > FE-1 and I now know why everyone says its impossible to
> > > > > > > > know how you do!!
>
> > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 3:29 pm, tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > Oops didn't write any of that stuff. Concentrated on criminal 
> > > > > > > > > damage,
> > > > > > > > > assault causing harm (indirect). oh well, nothing can be done 
> > > > > > > > > now.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 3:26 pm, Bee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > The one with Lennie in the cherry picker and Jason the 14 
> > > > > > > > > > yr old
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 3:19 pm, stripey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > Which one was question 5?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 3:10 pm, Bee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I did anyhow so hopefully that was right! I felt this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > way when I came
> > > > > > > > > > > > out of tort last time and I got it. Onto company now is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > right.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 2:57 pm, Doodles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys in Q 5 was it appropriate to go over the mens 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rea i.e. hyam,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > maloney, etc.?  Confused as hell with it all.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 2:43 pm, Fern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, that was an exhausting paper. I was happy 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough with it though.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was delighted that there was something on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > definition of crime
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and something on omissions, they were what I really 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hoped for. Then I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > did the two four-part questions and the provocation 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > question too. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult thing with criminal now is that you have 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be prepared to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > write a five page essay on some weird angle of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > topic (eg the quote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the provocation question was a bit nuts) or you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > could end up just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > writing a page or so in a four-parter. It'd break 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your heart. I really
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope I get the magic 50%
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, on to company now...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 1:13 pm, Bee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey,
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What did everyone think of criminal? They fairly 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shoved in everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they could didn't they?! The questions were very 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > busy I think. I just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > put down anything that seemed relevant. By the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time you have read the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions tho and gather your thoughts it does 
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