This is a very old and tired argument, yes I realize it's fresh to you. The list rules were evolved over time so as to allow for various levels of participation. It ranges in age from kids, to old men like rip, cd and me, to the ancient author who wrote the first draft of magician on clay tablets in sanskrit.
One of those rules is that we ask for spoiler notifications as a courtesy. Another is that we don't discuss movie casting, politics or religion. We have an off topic list for that. The reason is we have found that doing otherwise leads to long pithy arguments. You don't Come into a new community shre start announcing, your way of doing things is stupid and I'll do what I want, then expect to be welcomed with open arms. Same here. Figure that the list has been going strong for nearly twenty years, where most other similar forums have died ignominious deaths or faded into obscurity. Our evolved rules of etiquette I believe are a large part of the reason why so many of us and particularly Ray have stuck around. On Apr 4, 2012 11:35 AM, "Jason Green" <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand how easy it is. I'm simply stating that it's a bit silly. > > Do we REALLY need spoiler spaces when we're discussing a book that > > A) was published 30 years ago > > And > > B) was written by an author who is the focus of this list. > > My point is that this is a dedicated Feist email list, visited by > dedicated fans. I make the assumption that they are dedicated because who > the heck looks up, joins, and reads an email list about an author they > don't already have a deep appreciation of? I would guess that is a tiny > minority of the readers of this list. > > "ahhhh!!!! Spoilers please! Not everyone has read Hamlet yet!" > > "but, this is an advanced class about Shakeapeare's most famous works" > > I'm not stating that I am rebelling against spoiler spaces. I'm simply > pointing out that it's silly. > > And it IS silly. > > > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:44 AM, LAR <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You can REVEAL whatever you like, we just ask as a courtesy you hit > > return about 10 - 12 times so that people who DON'T want to see a > > spoiler can avoid it. It's not that difficult > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Jason Green <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Have to say I sort of agree with Parks. It's hard to have a discussion > about Ray's books if we can't reveal spoilers about any books. > >> > >> Magician has been out for about 30 years now. Maybe we need to have a > list rule for new joiners that maybe they shouldn't read the list until > they've ready at least the first series? > >> > >> Seriously, of you haven't read at least Magician, why are you reading > the Feist list instead of Ray's actual books? > >> > >> I'd be shocked of the vast majority of this list hadn't read everything > but he most recent book or two. > >> > >> Sometimes this list makes me want to go back to my English lit classes > and tell "spoilers!" every time the prof tries to discuss Shakespeare. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 4, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Parks White <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all > >>> > >>> My auto correct error typo "pro army" instead of "primary" and > subsequent clarification to Johns pedantic question authorizes "Shells" to > ramp up the discussion to "defend " the many veterans and active duty > service personnel "fans" (as if real warriors need defending) moves the > discussion into the political too. A clear breach of the rules as > well....Which I have now read...( I'm a newbie here)... the rules prohibits > humor, satire, sarcasm, politics, race and religion.........perhaps we > should write a new rule to eliminate the banal, trivial, stupid, pedantic, > irritating, entertaining and tasteless contributions too.. There really is > not much interesting or literary in the contributions I have read over the > last 6 weeks..drinking shots in Newark Rhode Island included... perhaps > the publishing gaff and that fans in the USA have had to wait 6 or more > weeks for a book launch over the rest of the world should be discussed. A > sign of a declining Empire?.. Is the Kingdom (sic) under threat?.Could it > be a good reason for deploying more US troops?..also maybe too political > and in such a sycophantic forum ....another reason to curb your First > amendment Rights!.... Oh I forgot, the military have severely curtailed > freedom of speech rights for the troops anyway..... And keep politics out > of Sports too!...yeah right! ...Clearly the fan list was set up and managed > by grey (regardless of age) bureaucrats...where is your passion , energy > and creativity...I see none....Pathetic " spoilers" and other protocols > restrict real discussions about plot and character...I have seen no > interesting questions or contributions recently that add much value beyond > vague error ridden snippets...I can only assume there is none here.... I > will go and wait for the annual publication... I Hope it is better > proofread and I will stick to blogs and forums that have something to say > in future...... > >>> > >>> cheers > >>> > >>> Parks3 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On 4/04/2012, at 1:22 PM, "James Young" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Seconded. > >>>> > >>>> -James > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > >>>> To: "feistfans-l" <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:52 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: New book replacement thread response. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This email is exactly why politics is not discussed here on the > List. Here it is about Ray's work, past and present, his likes and > dislikes, and whatever else he'd like to discuss. > >>>>> > >>>>> There are many Veterans here, and active duty service members, of > many countries whom love Rays work, which is why we are here. If you want > to talk about politics there are plenty of places you can go to speak your > mind on such matters, which is your right. > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a section on Crydee.com that speaks to the List rules if > you are interested. > >>>>> > >>>>> Shells > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Parks White <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sender: [email protected] > >>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:35:54 > >>>>> To: feistfans-l<[email protected]> > >>>>> Reply-To: "feistfans-l" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: New book replacement thread response. > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi John > >>>>> > >>>>> It suddenly also occurred to me that you might be serious.....if so, > I hope the following clarifies your query. > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. It was an auto correct error...I found it humorous after i had > sent the email and wanted to correct the typo quickly ( lesson here > somewhere) > >>>>> 2. It was mild political commentary on my part, an indulgence.....I > deplore militarism, military dictatorships, military > spending......definitely not Pro Army, air force, marines... Sorry for > laboring the point..... > >>>>> 3. I never say "oops" in an email unless repeating someone else's > "oops" ...my 7 year old says oops (rarely) > >>>>> > >>>>> Good to see you comment on the most salient points made in my email. > >>>>> > >>>>> Parks3 > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPad > >>>>> > >>>>> On 4/04/2012, at 7:47 AM, John Buttimer <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Why would you add that you aren't pro army? Why not just say oops > meant primary? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > If you want to take the island, then burn your boats. With absolute > > commitment come the insights that create real victory. > > -Tony Robbins > > > > > > >
