Dude, I've been a member of this list for 10 years, at least. I am not a new guy looking to change things. Try not to snag your spurs as you climb off your high horse.
And I am not interested in a Talmudic discussion of list rules. My point has been made. You don't agree. That's fine. Would anyone else like to chime in with a long-winded recitation of list rules? Maybe you can state them in a way no one else has! It'll be loads of fun. On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:18 AM, LAR <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a very old and tired argument, yes I realize it's fresh to you. The > list rules were evolved over time so as to allow for various levels of > participation. It ranges in age from kids, to old men like rip, cd and me, to > the ancient author who wrote the first draft of magician on clay tablets in > sanskrit. > > One of those rules is that we ask for spoiler notifications as a courtesy. > Another is that we don't discuss movie casting, politics or religion. We have > an off topic list for that. > > The reason is we have found that doing otherwise leads to long pithy > arguments. You don't > Come into a new community shre start announcing, your way of doing things is > stupid and I'll do what I want, then expect to be welcomed with open arms. > Same here. Figure that the list has been going strong for nearly twenty > years, where most other similar forums have died ignominious deaths or faded > into obscurity. Our evolved rules of etiquette I believe are a large part of > the reason why so many of us and particularly Ray have stuck around. > > > On Apr 4, 2012 11:35 AM, "Jason Green" <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand how easy it is. I'm simply stating that it's a bit silly. > > Do we REALLY need spoiler spaces when we're discussing a book that > > A) was published 30 years ago > > And > > B) was written by an author who is the focus of this list. > > My point is that this is a dedicated Feist email list, visited by dedicated > fans. I make the assumption that they are dedicated because who the heck > looks up, joins, and reads an email list about an author they don't already > have a deep appreciation of? I would guess that is a tiny minority of the > readers of this list. > > "ahhhh!!!! Spoilers please! Not everyone has read Hamlet yet!" > > "but, this is an advanced class about Shakeapeare's most famous works" > > I'm not stating that I am rebelling against spoiler spaces. I'm simply > pointing out that it's silly. > > And it IS silly. > > > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:44 AM, LAR <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You can REVEAL whatever you like, we just ask as a courtesy you hit > > return about 10 - 12 times so that people who DON'T want to see a > > spoiler can avoid it. It's not that difficult > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Jason Green <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Have to say I sort of agree with Parks. It's hard to have a discussion > >> about Ray's books if we can't reveal spoilers about any books. > >> > >> Magician has been out for about 30 years now. Maybe we need to have a list > >> rule for new joiners that maybe they shouldn't read the list until they've > >> ready at least the first series? > >> > >> Seriously, of you haven't read at least Magician, why are you reading the > >> Feist list instead of Ray's actual books? > >> > >> I'd be shocked of the vast majority of this list hadn't read everything > >> but he most recent book or two. > >> > >> Sometimes this list makes me want to go back to my English lit classes and > >> tell "spoilers!" every time the prof tries to discuss Shakespeare. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 4, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Parks White <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all > >>> > >>> My auto correct error typo "pro army" instead of "primary" and subsequent > >>> clarification to Johns pedantic question authorizes "Shells" to ramp up > >>> the discussion to "defend " the many veterans and active duty service > >>> personnel "fans" (as if real warriors need defending) moves the > >>> discussion into the political too. A clear breach of the rules as > >>> well....Which I have now read...( I'm a newbie here)... the rules > >>> prohibits humor, satire, sarcasm, politics, race and > >>> religion.........perhaps we should write a new rule to eliminate the > >>> banal, trivial, stupid, pedantic, irritating, entertaining and tasteless > >>> contributions too.. There really is not much interesting or literary in > >>> the contributions I have read over the last 6 weeks..drinking shots in > >>> Newark Rhode Island included... perhaps the publishing gaff and that fans > >>> in the USA have had to wait 6 or more weeks for a book launch over the > >>> rest of the world should be discussed. A sign of a declining Empire?.. Is > >>> the Kingdom (sic) under threat?.Could it be a good reason for deploying > >>> more US troops?..also maybe too political and in such a sycophantic forum > >>> ....another reason to curb your First amendment Rights!.... Oh I forgot, > >>> the military have severely curtailed freedom of speech rights for the > >>> troops anyway..... And keep politics out of Sports too!...yeah right! > >>> ...Clearly the fan list was set up and managed by grey (regardless of > >>> age) bureaucrats...where is your passion , energy and creativity...I see > >>> none....Pathetic " spoilers" and other protocols restrict real > >>> discussions about plot and character...I have seen no interesting > >>> questions or contributions recently that add much value beyond vague > >>> error ridden snippets...I can only assume there is none here.... I will > >>> go and wait for the annual publication... I Hope it is better proofread > >>> and I will stick to blogs and forums that have something to say in > >>> future...... > >>> > >>> cheers > >>> > >>> Parks3 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On 4/04/2012, at 1:22 PM, "James Young" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Seconded. > >>>> > >>>> -James > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > >>>> To: "feistfans-l" <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:52 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: New book replacement thread response. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This email is exactly why politics is not discussed here on the List. > >>>>> Here it is about Ray's work, past and present, his likes and dislikes, > >>>>> and whatever else he'd like to discuss. > >>>>> > >>>>> There are many Veterans here, and active duty service members, of many > >>>>> countries whom love Rays work, which is why we are here. If you want to > >>>>> talk about politics there are plenty of places you can go to speak your > >>>>> mind on such matters, which is your right. > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a section on Crydee.com that speaks to the List rules if you > >>>>> are interested. > >>>>> > >>>>> Shells > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Parks White <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sender: [email protected] > >>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:35:54 > >>>>> To: feistfans-l<[email protected]> > >>>>> Reply-To: "feistfans-l" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: New book replacement thread response. > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi John > >>>>> > >>>>> It suddenly also occurred to me that you might be serious.....if so, I > >>>>> hope the following clarifies your query. > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. It was an auto correct error...I found it humorous after i had sent > >>>>> the email and wanted to correct the typo quickly ( lesson here > >>>>> somewhere) > >>>>> 2. It was mild political commentary on my part, an indulgence.....I > >>>>> deplore militarism, military dictatorships, military > >>>>> spending......definitely not Pro Army, air force, marines... Sorry for > >>>>> laboring the point..... > >>>>> 3. I never say "oops" in an email unless repeating someone else's > >>>>> "oops" ...my 7 year old says oops (rarely) > >>>>> > >>>>> Good to see you comment on the most salient points made in my email. > >>>>> > >>>>> Parks3 > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPad > >>>>> > >>>>> On 4/04/2012, at 7:47 AM, John Buttimer <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Why would you add that you aren't pro army? Why not just say oops > >>>>>> meant primary? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > If you want to take the island, then burn your boats. With absolute > > commitment come the insights that create real victory. > > -Tony Robbins > > > > > >
