I'm a lurker and about two years ago I made a spoiler mistake and got hit by about ten people about spoilers and a few just adding comments like " This won't be pretty, here come the spoiler police." And I left the list for a few weeks. So I agree with Jason. We know the reasons why some people haven't read some of the books but I'm sure a lot of people when they come on the list can't conceive why any fan wouldn't have already read all the books and should be given a little bit of grace.
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mopok Addy Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:07 PM To: feistfans-l Subject: [Maybe Spam] Re: Rules of engagement Adults in age only.. I say there should be one or two people who police this list. Being a tad more understanding and polite to people making a mistake wouldn't go astray either. On 05/04/2012, at 5:38 AM, John Buttimer <[email protected]> wrote: Hey Jason. I like the thoughts, but it would take a lot more than that to scare me off :D Plus to me watching so many people bicker over something so trivial is kind of funny because I would wager most of them like myself are adults. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Green <[email protected]> To: feistfans-l <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 2:33 pm Subject: Re: Rules of engagement Ray, I will point out that if 15 people hadn't felt the need to pile on with the exact same comments, this discussion would have been over long ago. My intention was not to argue or create dissension or even to demand that rules be changed. It was simply to point out an opinion. If that is discourteous and cause for removal from the list, then this is not the place for me anyway, in spite of the fact that I have spent about a decade here. To the rest of you, You know what else is rude? Not taking 5 minutes to read through a thread to see if the comment you want to make has already been made - in this case about a dozen times. Is it any wonder that new posters make one post and then are never heard from again? God help them if they screw up a spoiler space or violate some other list rule that is in the FAQ. They'll be subjected to an inbox full of identical replies pointing out what a dipshit they are. This is not the first time I've said this, but it bears repeating: this list is incredibly unfriendly to new members. John didn't know the rules and made a simple mistake. Now, we've had a three day discussion on the value and necessity of spoilers, which will end with yet another new member run off, and perhaps several more who will simply walk away with no fanfare. Do we really need 15 list cops in here? Especially ones who won't even take the time to read the other posts in the thread? Fact is, the very first "here's why we have spoilers" post was sufficient. But the next 10 just serve no useful purpose, and make the posters look like assholes. Oh dear God, I just top posted this reply. Armageddon. Regards, Jason On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:45 AM, "Raymond E. Feist" <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Jason Green wrote: > >> I understand how easy it is. I'm simply stating that it's a bit silly. >> >> Do we REALLY need spoiler spaces when we're discussing a book that >> >> A) was published 30 years ago >> >> And >> >> B) was written by an author who is the focus of this list. >> >> My point is that this is a dedicated Feist email list, visited by dedicated fans. I make the assumption that they are dedicated because who the heck looks up, joins, and reads an email list about an author they don't already have a deep appreciation of? I would guess that is a tiny minority of the readers of this list. >> >> "ahhhh!!!! Spoilers please! Not everyone has read Hamlet yet!" >> >> "but, this is an advanced class about Shakeapeare's most famous works" >> >> I'm not stating that I am rebelling against spoiler spaces. I'm simply pointing out that it's silly. >> >> And it IS silly. >> > > > Let me stress this: > > Not everyone is the same age. We've had teenagers join this list who had just read Magician for the first time. > > Not everyone has read every book. Faerie Tale came out 23 years ago and there are people who haven't read the list. > > This is NOT a graduate seminar in "Feist Studies" which requires you've read very book before you sit down. > > Got it? > > People have been asked for YEARS on this list to provide spoiler space when any content is being discussed. If you're new to the list and you don't know why, see the above. if you decide to argue, you're being discourteous. If you keep arguing, I'll ask you to leave the list. > > Best, R.E.F. > ---- > www.crydee.com > > Never attribute to malice what can satisfactorily be explained away by stupidity. > > > > > > >
