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Well said, Bret.

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Jon

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On 13/04/2012, at 12:08 PM, Bret Robideaux <[email protected]> wrote:

> You're more than welcome to set up a forum, blog, another email list.
> Anything you want. Host it in the cloud, host it on a Commodore 64 in
> your basement. Whatever makes you happy. And, please let us know about
> it .. once. Some of us may want to join you.
> 
> Make up your own rules to keep things civil, have no rules at all.
> It's yours, it's your choice.
> 
> This email list, however, is not yours. The rules on this list were
> not pulled out of the air randomly by Anestis, rip, or me. It's not
> our list. Every single rule we follow exists for a reason.
> 
> Correcting someone who makes a mistake is an act of kindness. The fact
> that someone is deeply offended at being corrected is quite simply
> backwards. And lashing out at being corrected is beyond rude.
> 
> The polite thing to do when entering a new community, making a mistake
> and being corrected is to apologize, ask where to find the rules of
> the community (assuming they weren't provided) and move on. A thread
> should last only a few posts. The initial post, a couple reminders, an
> apology and a "no problem, welcome to the list" or three. You're going
> to get a couple reminders, deal with it. It's an email list, not a
> forum, and email isn't delivered instantaneously, despite your
> experience to the contrary. Early responders aren't going realize that
> someone else posted a response first. It's just the nature of the
> beast.
> 
> Putting the blame for extending threads, for days on end, on the
> people trying to be helpful is also backwards. The blame lies entirely
> on the rude individuals lashing out at being corrected. Instead of
> apologizing and defusing the situation, they lash out, responding to
> each and every "attack".
> 
> We go through the entire cycle nearly every time. It's the same litany
> of nonsense: the "list cops" are rude, the rules are stupid, etc, etc.
> No, the "list cops" are trying to be helpful. And the fact that you
> can't comprehend a reason for a rule makes you somehow right, is
> what's rude. Calling someone a Nazi, when they're only trying to be
> helpful, is rude.
> 
> This community is in the vicinity of 20 years old. And quite frankly,
> it's amazing we've lasted this long without a list of rules rivaling
> the works of Shakespeare. There aren't many of them, but they work
> well. The links have been provided over and over, and can be again
> upon request. They're relatively simple, and following them is the
> polite thing to do.
> 
> Bret
> 

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