On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 00:19 -0700, Erick Tryzelaar wrote:
> skaller wrote:
> > As far as the tickets go .. well anything is better than the
> > bugtracker on sourceforge ;(
> >   
> 
> Oh I know. That site is just so damn slow.

It's not the 'slow' that's the problem -- it's the ridiculous
interface. Each comment on a tracker item is added to the list,
and it emails you the whole dang thing .. I find it IMPOSSIBLE
to decide what the original issue was and where the latest
response is .. I think it puts the original issue at the top,
then the responses in reverse order or some such crap -- 
point is I can't actually tell.

Even worse, you cannot respond this rubbish by email,
you have to click on a link which takes you to the
bugtracker.

Only, you can't respond even then, because you're not
logged in to Sourceforge. And if you login .. you lose the
bugtracker response page and have to click on the link
in the email AGAIN.

Then it gives you a two inch square box for typing your
comments in, and it doesn't know how to quote .. it's
really very useless IMHO.

Yeah, its a bit slow, but that isn't the main problem now:
SF is much faster since they upgraded their hardware, and its
doubtful your site will be faster .. actually it isn't, it's
slower for me. This really matters for things like Wiki navigation,
where you really need fractional second response times or the
thing doesn't feel interactive.

> Thats actually not true. You can subscribe through email, with any email 
> address. Just send a mail to 
> felix-language-subscribe[at]groups.google.com and google will send a 
> confirm email, which you need to reply to (and not click on the url). 
> Then you can send and receive messages. 

Ah, ok.

> If we set up subversion 
> ourselves, I think we can even fix the problem of having to have the 
> account subscribed to felix-impl to commit, though I can't promise that yet.

You can clearly make a subversion repository on your host.
However I'm not sure that's wise. you have all the admin
problems then, including backup etc. What happens if you
take a holiday .. or get hit by the proverbial bus?

SF still offers resources which are useful. They might not be
so wonderful, but they're working on making them better.
In the end, a major site like that can provide integration
which is harder on a small self run site (even if they're
not doing so well now). Eg .. they have a lot of download
mirrors (not that I bother), and they have stuff setup for
Paypal .. (money ..now that does matter .. :)

BTW: if we really have to set up a source repository ..
Darcs is probably the only one worth bothering with.

> > I already get two copies of everything because stupid email
> > clients have 'replyto' and 'replytoall' but don't have the
> > button I really want 'replytolist'.
> >   
> 
> But thats the best thing about google groups! It doesn't send two copies 
> if you're on both the "To:" and are subscribed to the mailing list! I am 
> so excited for this feature.

You're missing the point: SF list doesn't send two emails either,
its the client mail program at fault. You get TWO copies of
this email because I'm sending to you AND to the list ..
the list can't stop that .. and I won't be using the 
web interface for mailing: I'm on several lists and my
email system lets me deal with all the mail in a single
consistent way.

-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net

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