PLEASE...Some specific eye witness examples that other can visit and bring attention to the local
sheriff will do .....
What are they testing for ????
What treatment are they doing that is so bad
compared to being kept in a small cage with no
outside windows for years...(many no kill shelters)



I hear what you're saying, but it's just not true. There's more to research on animals than drawing blood occasionally. Good grief.


At 10:36 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote:

Why do people think research is synominus with torture...
>From Hollywood science fiction movies...
With the scrutiny that research places are under today
I guarantee you that most animals in a research place are much
happier than those in no kill shelters... Think for a minute about
Angel Wings Sanctuary...

  Every body yells about IAMS food because they do research...
But they have invited HSUS to do un announced visits....
I bet many private pet owners wouldn't pass as well as they do...

What is the alternative for these animals... PTS ???

Technically they are a non profit so they don't sell but except
and adoption fee.. Isn't that the same difference ???

And what is the research consist of ???
Drawing blood or tissue samples ???  Like we never do that
with our FeLV+'s...

I spent a good part of my life working in a research lab..
Not animals but computers... But to do good research
one needs to put the subject in a controlled environment...
Usually you want the test to work under normal good conditions..
Its the same with animals.. They are given a happy, no stress
environment so that factor won't cause problems and for
instance give them different food...
If I were given the choice of having to eat spinach or PTS
I would take the spinach...
If you can find some animals that are being tortured than
raise hell about that...

I say if they are adopting to a research with the same
questions or home visit that they do with a private home
than what is wrong with that... Maybe it would make more
sense that they do that...

Shelters have their limits... That's why millions of animals
have to be PTS every year just because there is no body to
give them a home... Keep the pressure on to enforce all people
that care for animals... Like the dogs chained to the back porch
24/7 who gets some attention on nice days only....



After getting frantic "pleas" for animals In Ingham County, Mi. several years ago, I learned "all about" this policy that many shelters in Michigan have regarding selling animals to research facilities........
They claim they do it for revenue, to keep operating. A "necessary evil". That the cost of euthanasia/cremation would be too much of a financial burden.

My opinion of that "lame" statement - Bull Sh*t!!!!

Seriously, it's nothing more tha greed and ignorance and arrogance, that's all.

I've worked with  many very poor rural shelters, many in the south.
And, when I say "poor", these areas are so poor, it makes me feel like I am living in Beverly Hills. However, these rural, understaffed, overcrowded shelters DO NOT resort to selling animals for $$$$$

AND - Guess why????
Because it is NOT allowed in these states, along with many others.
Yep, it's been considered "illegal" to sell pound seizures.
Google, and you will see which states STILL allow this atrocity!!
We don't need to use animals for research.... Egads, where is all this "new" testing technology???

My point, it is still LEGAL in Michigan....(and other states).
Something needs to be done on the legislative level to STOP THIS ATROCITY!!!!

So, Michigan residents, FIGHT!!! Speak your voice! Write letters! Join AAVS or NAVS!! Start a "grass roots" campaign...... NEVER SAY NEVER!!!
This MUST stop!

What a sad reflection of the society we live in.
Makes me so very ashamed..........


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