At 03:19 PM 11/18/2006, you wrote:
I agree.. I did not know how dangerous those foam
mats from Costco are....My Tiger has just had his
second surgery, the mats are gone,,my pocketbook
is dry, We are all here to share and help each other,,
Kelly
Please know that no one is picking on you. We
are asking so many questions out of total
concern for you and your little ones. Each of
use brings some different experiences to the
table. I was never very aware of the dangers of
philodendrons with cats until Dixie started
showing some interest in house plants. No other
cat had. Needless to say, I am having to
re-home some plants I really like. Today she
reacted very badly to a cologne a friend had
on...........she wanted nothing to do with him
and she is a very social cat. She even hissed
at him and, in the almost two years I have known
her, I have never heard her hiss at a
person. Arsenic is organic as are a large
number of poisons. And people have awful
reactions to somethings like new carpet fumes or
glues. ls it possible that someone has used an
insecticide or something that you would not know about?
We all know how much you love your cats and what
good care you take of them. Please don't take
any of the questions or comments wrong.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow man.
St. Francis
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From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Susan Hoffman
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?
It is very easy to get paranoid with FIP. I
always worry about it if someone misses a meal
or seems to be sleeping more than usual. But
don't let yourself be so convinced that everyone
who has died in the past month or two or three
is the result of FIP. I think you have
something else going on. Some may have had FIP
but others? Keep looking. I think there is more to it.
Dry FIP usually takes at least 2-4 months from
the first little sign of trouble -- lethargy,
loss of appetite -- before the cat dies. Weight
loss is gradual. At the end the cat is truly
anorexic in appearance but it takes time to get
there. Neurological signs do not occur in all
cases. And it is highly unusual to lose so many
in such a short period of time. Not unheard of
but rare and usually involving a commercial
cattery with a lot of questionable breeding practices.
You need to start doing a necropsy on everyone
who dies. That is the only way you can be
certain if it was dry FIP. Until then, don't
make that assumption. Otherwise you may miss
something that is treatable or preventable.
Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Susan, none of my cats had a rapid onset of the
illness I knew that something was wrong with
Naomi before my vet event thought something was
wrong for about two months.. she thought it was
nutricious thing but she never really got that
big.. it was very subtle, and chronic.. and the
same was Dharma they ate okay, and move around
just fine.. just not as active as a kitten
should be.. if you know what I mean.. Dharma was
doing very well when Naomi was sick, but
gradually she became a bit inactive and
started running low grade fever, and her pupils
size got a little bit irregular size.. and
finally I took her to the doctor as I felt that
it was not just URIs and did blood work thats
when she shows moderately anemic, high globulin
and I started on interferon right away just in case it was FIP..
Peters illness was not acute either
I just failed to notice something was wrong with
Peter since I was so busy watching Naomi he
had lost lots of weight by the time I noticed
that something war wrong . it was not acute, but
very subtle until towards end and did not know
it if I had paid more attention to Peter,
things might have been different as he was a
little bit older boy and may be there was a
better chance to save his life with interferon
and I kick mysef for that all the time - it
makes me so bad when I think of it.. and the
same thing for Olive, it was not acute on set
she was feral and used to hide all the time, and
she had a long hair, and did not know that she
was getting sick .. again, I was too busy
watching Dharma and did not notice Olives
illness her liver values elevated, and it must
have taken a few weeks to get that bad and
again,, I failed to see it
just to me Peters
and Olives illness were very sudden and quick,
but they really werent if I had paid more
attention to them, I would have noticed them at
least a couple of months ago.. rikkis illness
were very chronic.. I noticed several months ago
he had been losing weight as Peter did.. I first
thought it was either liver or kidney - -but
blood work was not indicating neither only
thing was high globulin and moderaly anemic
but again a lot of my cats have been.. and rikki
is an older kitty so I was hoping that he did
not have FIP and still dont know for sure..
I am sorry Susan, if I did not describe their
conditions well now I hope it makes sense to
you..why I have been saying that it is FIP that killing my babies.
now I am dealing with two kitties who are less
than 1 year old Tony and Lizzy (she is my bottle
baby) started showing some similar signs as
Naomi and Dharma originally did Lizzy is 6
months old but she only weight 3.10 lb but did
not worry about her as she has been very
active.. but she has URIs that she cant get rid
of. She has lost some weights and Tony has
started with sneeze and low grade fever,
letharzy for the past week or two.. I am not
convinced that they have FIP right now no
neurological sign or anything it might be
pre-FIP stagewho knows.. but as you may notice,
I am paranoid. .so I started on FOI right away
hoping that we can get rid of any viral stuff going on in them..
Hideyo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?
Dry FIP is very hard to diagnose because the
general symptoms are consistent with so many
other diseases. It is very easy to misdiagnose
dry FIP and miss the real cause of
something. Also, the rapid onset, ages of some
of the cats, and the number who are being
stricken in such a short period of time are NOT consistent with dry FIP.
What Hideyo describes across the board is
consistent with ingesting a toxic
substance. And if you look at the cats
individually you can identify other illnesses
that would present with the same symptoms.
Unfortunately, since I do shelter rescues, I
have seen a few cases of dry FIP this year and
last. And I have researched FIP in an attempt
to deal with what I have seen. What Hideyo
describes is not typical of FIP in a shelter or
rescue environment. Some of the cats, maybe,
but not all of them in the time frame and with
the symptoms describes. There may be something
else going on and I would not assume FIP to the
exclusion of any other explanation.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you look at Dr. Addie's description of dry
FIP on her website, it does sound like it's
possible that Hideyo's cats are getting it.
Michelle
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