At 11:51 AM 2/5/2007, you wrote:
We can and should only relay facts as we personally know them, and do
our best to do it privately if at all possible, If we have
misgivings, it is our duty to protect the animals, We all have
different standards. My cats have dirt to play in and bushes,,,and it
is comfortable for the ferals to have their seclusion, Someone else
might not like it, They are litter boxes and grass I need to
clean,,,,The cats love it,,,Regardless, I have just seen to many good
rescues hurt my well meaning people imposing their own standards on others,
We can email each other off list . and I do it frequently if I do not
it is suited to the group.
Kelly
www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
Hey, I understand. I can understand where both the person who had
volunteered to take Simms and Rude Ranch, are coming from. RR has a
business to protect for the sake of the animals under its care, and
they can only continue if the people who entrust the animals to them
continue to help pay for the cats care...I get that. And I
understand this woman who agreed to help me, doing so out of the
goodness of her heart b/c of her love of animals...I understand and
respect that. As for the conditions on her farm and the charges
under her care, since they were not up to MY standards, as I believe
I would want to live, so I found another alternative for the charge
under my care.
While I believe that perhaps I should have alerted AC, I didn't
because she IS working with all these other rescue
organizations. All these places, people, who start with the best of
intentions do good work. The level of "good" is relative to each
individual's personal reality.
IF what she had said was true about RR shifting cats onto her, which
she seemed very proud of- to be able to help...I felt it MIGHT help
someone reading about RR to understand that there may be a
POSSIBILITY that a cat placed with them, might not stay with them,
and if sent away, might not wind up in a place as nice as
their's. I admitted in my e-mail that I had no personal knowledge
of the workings of Rude Ranch, only relayed my experience with
someone who claimed to...and because she knew them by name and
seemed joyed to help them & because several other rescue operations
I had spoken to recommended her to me, I had no reason to believe
that she wasn't telling me the truth.
But as saying even the least little thing bad about a place can
cause harm, so can saying a place is wonderful ....
My only intention with my original post was to caution. I know I
have dropped animals at "WONDERFUL" shelters in the past, places I
personally supported financially for years...then eventually
volunteered there only to learn awful things about the running of
the organizations (again...NOT referring to Rude Ranch, I've never
been THERE)....but...If a place seems TOO wonderful, its often too
easy to reliquish the care of a beloved animal to it and not feel
any guilt. Whereas IF all the facts were researched, perhaps a
better place/person could be found if just given a little more time
and research.
I had/have no intention to villify people who care and are trying to
help...even when they've lost their way. EDUCATION to those trying
to place felv+ cats is the best security for the animals, whether
education on the disease itself, or on HOW to investigate anyone or
place where one might leave an animal who is trusting you to care for them.
I never said RR was bad, or absolutely did shift animals onto an
overloaded foster home, I just relayed what little information I
personaly heard from someone who claimed to have a good, working
relationship with RR. So that if anyone had seen them on Animal
Planet they wouldn't automatically assume them to be the
"be-all-end-all" (which they may actually be-who knows) just because
they were on tv. Speaking as a rescuer myself, who is more than
willing to help others ...I prefer to do so when they've exhausted
all other avenues...and NOT be their first call...being too good at
what you do, can get you in WAY over your head.
T
TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
exactly..... it only takes one person with their own agenda to cause
irreparable harm.
we were once contacted by someone who wanted us to take her two FeLVs,
from quite a distance away. as FeLVs don't do really well on long
transports, we tried to work with her on more local options. every
place she went to, she found major fault with, yet every time we tried
to set up transport arrangements with her, she has one excuse after
another about why it wouldn't/couldn't work. i had many long emails
and phone calls with her, and finally, she just stopped responding.
about two months later, she started posting hissterical messages about
these same two cats on the lists. again, i wrote and reminded her that
we were willing to take them--on the lists, she wrote really nasty
letters about how i'd never responded to her before, and that if it
had been up to me, those cats would have been dead by now, then she
went on about how she wasn't going to send them to a place where the
cats lived in cages in tiny rooms all their lives--which was not at
all the case where we were--i'd sent her many photos of our
facilities..... when i reminded her, off list, of our phone calls and
emails, she went back on the lists, saying that i was harassing her
and that she was going to tell everyone to have nothing to do with our
sanctuary and that if she ever heard from me again she'd report me for
stalking.... i reported HER to all the lists she was posting on,
actually.....and considered sending her the bill for the long-distance
phone calls i'd made to her....
some people will never be satisfied, and sadly, some people really do
exist solely to make trouble for others.
MC
On 2/5/07, Kelly L wrote:
> I do not know personally of the place but be careful when saying
> something negative like that on line, You could really hurt someone
> trying to help.
> I have a small sanctuary and would never allow anyone in here with
> out an appointment, There are many many crazy people out there
> unfamiliar with what it takes to manage multitudes of cats...All it
> takes is for one cat to vomit in a corner and another boy baby to
> spray someones shoes.. Yup it happens. I know of two wonderful caring
> rescuers ( not hoarders) who lost al their cats when an novice cat
> person decided it was messy etc,,,,they called the authorities and as
> a result I imagine many cats lost their loving home and perhaps
their lives,
> for a person getting rid of cats for any reason, why do they expect
> others to be able to do what they themselves are willing to do,,I
> have both FIV and FELV....
> I do recommend that any time a cat is placed a home check is in
> order,,that is common sense.
> Kelly
> www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
>
>
>
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